From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A41133B260 for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 03:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3663DA7; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:24:38 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1481185478; bh=fdRe/2pL5SGBcl3V9UCpP3h5y1pYPXbOo2GZ/G/QD1Y=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=1mZorlDr2P/LJRlvbsLkWYrpkjpx8g6KoE5Vt9OeJHVhDvXeKImNvVaK7b8PmQ8X5 Nb2JPAhJ6MBf1X097ogqfXuLhTZRjl0aKRCTo8Zb9e2j54AtI5CST0u1LQS2c/DVj+ I8lw1Ds2fBXPxI8yktPYA1OABYl/EiaEJr+FJIP0= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5BFA6; Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:24:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 09:24:38 +0100 (CET) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Dave Taht cc: bloat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Bloat] TCP BBR paper is now generally available X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 08:24:39 -0000 On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Dave Taht wrote: > http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3022184 "BBR converges toward a fair share of the bottleneck bandwidth whether competing with other BBR flows or with loss-based congestion control." That's not what I took away from your tests of having BBR and Cubic flows together, where BBR just killed Cubic dead. What has changed since? Have you re-done your tests with whatever has changed, I must have missed that? Or did I misunderstand? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se