From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net,
"cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] DC behaviors today
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 10:13:18 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712041000330.8884@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmjff7l6.fsf_-_@nemesis.taht.net>
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, Dave Taht wrote:
> What Jesper's been working on for ages has been to try and get linux's
> PPS up for small packets, which last I heard was hovering at about
> 4Gbits.
You might want to look into what the VPP (https://fd.io/) peeps are doing.
They can at least forward packets at pretty impressive rates. 200Mpps zero
frame loss with 2M FIB, limited to NIC and PCIe, not CPU (on many-core
machine).
> I have never thought there was much of a market for gbit to or from the
> home. 40Mbits is enough for nearly everybody until > 4k video with
> smellovision and tactile feedback become a standard.
I'd say the sweet spot right now is in the 100-250 megabit/s range,
considering "cost of production" and "what do people need/use". This means
it still can be done on 1 gigabit/s access links.
Anything faster than 1GE is going to be significantly more expensive than
1GE because 1GE is "good enough for most" when it comes to hundreds of
millions of households for their inter/intra home need. Also for SME use,
1GE is good enough for a lot of use cases.
I personally now have 250/50 which is good enough for me, and I don't want
to pay 2x my current MRC to get 1000/100. However, if I had to downgrade
to 30 megabit/s I would most certinaly notice it, and in my market that
would just be a 20-30% saving which definitely isn't worth it.
--
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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2017-12-04 4:19 ` [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2017-12-04 9:13 ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2017-12-04 9:31 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:18 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 10:27 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:43 ` Pedro Tumusok
2017-12-04 10:47 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:57 ` Pedro Tumusok
2017-12-04 10:59 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 12:44 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 19:59 ` dpreed
2017-12-04 20:29 ` David Collier-Brown
2017-12-08 7:05 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-12 15:09 ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-12 18:36 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-12 22:53 ` dpreed
2017-12-12 23:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-13 10:20 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-13 10:45 ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-13 15:26 ` Neil Davies
2017-12-13 16:41 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-13 18:08 ` dpreed
2017-12-13 19:55 ` Neil Davies
2017-12-13 21:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-14 8:22 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-17 21:37 ` Benjamin Cronce
2017-12-18 8:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-17 11:52 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2017-12-18 7:50 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-19 17:55 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2017-12-27 15:15 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2018-01-20 11:55 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 12:41 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 10:56 ` [Bloat] Linux network is damn fast, need more use XDP (Was: DC behaviors today) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-04 17:00 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-04 20:49 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-07 8:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-07 8:49 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-04 17:19 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
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