From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Matthias Tafelmeier <matthias.tafelmeier@gmx.net>
Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] DC behaviors today
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 08:50:10 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712180848460.8884@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ee44b12-1247-1830-0388-63a4c74fb6d2@gmx.net>
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017, Matthias Tafelmeier wrote:
> What I actually wanted to posit in relation to that is that one could
> get sooner a c-cabable backbone sibling by marrying two ideas: the
> airborne concept ongoing as outlined plus what NASA is planning to bring
> about for the space backbone, e.g [1][2]. It's laser based instead of
> directed radio-wave only. Sure, both is in the speed range of c,
> apparantely, laser transmission has in addition a significantly higher
> bandwidth to offer. "10 to 100 times as much data at a time as
> radio-frequency systems"[3]. Attenuations to photons in clean
> atmospheric air are neglible (few mps - refractive index of about
> 1.0003), so actually a neglible slowdown - easily competing with top
> notch fibres (99.7% the vacuum speed of light). Sure, that's the ideal
> case, though, if cleverly done from the procurement of platforms and
> overall system steering perspective, might feasible.
Todays laser links are in the few km per hop range, with is easily at
least one magnitude shorter than radio based equivalents.
I don't know the physics behind it, but people who have better insight
than I do tell me "it's hard" to run longer hops (if one wants any kind of
high bitrate).
--
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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2017-12-04 4:19 ` [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2017-12-04 9:13 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 9:31 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:18 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 10:27 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:43 ` Pedro Tumusok
2017-12-04 10:47 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 10:57 ` Pedro Tumusok
2017-12-04 10:59 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 12:44 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 19:59 ` dpreed
2017-12-04 20:29 ` David Collier-Brown
2017-12-08 7:05 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-12 15:09 ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-12 18:36 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-12 22:53 ` dpreed
2017-12-12 23:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-13 10:20 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-13 10:45 ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-13 15:26 ` Neil Davies
2017-12-13 16:41 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-13 18:08 ` dpreed
2017-12-13 19:55 ` Neil Davies
2017-12-13 21:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-14 8:22 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-17 21:37 ` Benjamin Cronce
2017-12-18 8:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-17 11:52 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2017-12-18 7:50 ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2017-12-19 17:55 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2017-12-27 15:15 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
2018-01-20 11:55 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-04 12:41 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2017-12-04 10:56 ` [Bloat] Linux network is damn fast, need more use XDP (Was: DC behaviors today) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-04 17:00 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-04 20:49 ` Joel Wirāmu Pauling
2017-12-07 8:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-07 8:49 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-12-04 17:19 ` Matthias Tafelmeier
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