From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412643B2A4 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 04:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 54632B1; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 10:53:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1522832018; bh=BZL+fL+Ji0BV2/fPPU2Gc9K6uVqmUkYj3JZj0lafPvw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=A9w5rYyvLlfPtvea7EggO3WeTq8/cuzyg4aq8H0QFrC/oXGnzUg4y6I/Mcy7Xu55b gt+3SfYmMd3J8YnO5k8PqnUpt4khU/huxc6yrOyn5cU9QeebwicMWSHFPRJx9yYltA WOnj/KfIafHN9Ddahyt8gYn/ZW19L6g/I7q+ks8A= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52155B0; Wed, 4 Apr 2018 10:53:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 10:53:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Michael Welzl cc: Dave Taht , bloat , Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <53125778-8086-4228-836E-6C0CD833F81C@ifi.uio.no> Message-ID: References: <50e57074-4ca5-59f7-f010-d9b2b845a8a7@rogers.com> <8DE589C3-9537-416D-AC7C-9250464869F9@gmail.com> <0ED5B59A-5C31-4F70-A2C9-04D9EA779A7B@ifi.uio.no> <53125778-8086-4228-836E-6C0CD833F81C@ifi.uio.no> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="-137064504-1470059644-1522832018=:18650" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348 X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:53:39 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---137064504-1470059644-1522832018=:18650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, Michael Welzl wrote: > well - they have been refusing too long to do them at all. i guess > that’s part of the problem It's not about refusing to do so, it's because other SDOs have told the IETF not to. If IETF tries to touch POSIX, the SDO that does POSIX doesn't appreciate this. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se ---137064504-1470059644-1522832018=:18650--