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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Rosen Penev <rosenp@gmail.com>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:00:56 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1808240858210.23215@uplift.swm.pp.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6Hd5PTvB84CanUdMZaxgFxxqxavGB7wSbxO_0oahk=JQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote:

> On the marvell front... yes, they tend to produce hardware that runs too 
> hot. I too rather like the chipset, and it's become my default hw for 
> most things in the midrange.

I checked my WRT1200AC and it idles at 8W. My similar Broadcom box idles 
at 10W, but that one has a lot more on the motherboard plus 4x4 wifi that 
tends to run very hot. I intend to try them under load though and see how 
much power usage changes.

> Lastly... there are still billions of slower ISP links left in the
> world to fix, with hardware that now costs well under
> 40 bucks. The edgerouter X is 50 bucks (sans wifi) and good to
> ~180mbps for inbound shaping presently. Can we get those edge
> connections fixed???

There are indeed these kinds of slower devices, but it's also that they 
tend to be the kind of device that last saw development a few years ago 
and only reason it's still being new installed is because it's cheap.

In most of the world, customers do not rent the CPE so there is no cash 
flow to the ISP to fix anything. So they tend to sit there until they 
break.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-24  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23  0:49 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2018-08-23  5:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 13:06   ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-23 13:57     ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-23 14:22       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-23 15:32         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 17:14           ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-23 17:50             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 18:21               ` Dave Taht
2018-08-23 20:15                 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24  7:00                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson [this message]
2018-08-24  8:06                     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 11:22                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 11:46                       ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:43                         ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:44                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 13:56                             ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 13:36                       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24  7:05                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 11:24                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-23 21:01                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 14:44                   ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 17:58                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-23 23:35           ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-08-24  1:08             ` David Collier-Brown
2018-08-24  6:16             ` Jan Ceuleers
2018-08-24 11:27           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-24 12:46             ` Pedro Tumusok
2018-08-24 13:09             ` Michael Richardson
2018-08-24 13:37             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-24 13:44               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-26  4:29           ` [Bloat] Marvell 385 Dave Taht
2018-08-26  4:32             ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-26 16:28             ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-26 18:44             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-26 20:53               ` Dave Taht
2018-08-26 20:58               ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-26 21:08                 ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  0:55                   ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27  1:21                     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  1:33                       ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27  1:45                         ` Dave Taht
2018-08-27  1:53                           ` Rosen Penev
2018-08-27 11:33                   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23  8:26 ` [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL Pete Heist
2018-08-23 10:51   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-08-23 11:38     ` Pete Heist
2018-08-24 17:13   ` Pete Heist
2018-08-24 17:30     ` Dave Taht
2018-08-24 18:43       ` Dave Taht

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