From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7949D3CB35 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 09:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 29323B9; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:18:37 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1543328317; bh=aHXdUOZy/VHBG7TyVhd4fKY1qyfnh5EsBe5BWIGXZ0Y=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=iVT6yKjv3dzeNQjMYd5w5t4xYGju0hI1U+ZvxqZRwhrxvomlNUF72q2W+ip0mEthx y2va9s12zd7QwmocIGgnGmx46igcuI4TynOOAadgSyQqL71iuyX3QiUbRtS/6REcxv 6fHv0MzEH8vXVpO59dEmhxd6TWutD2AeR6fletfY= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ABAB6; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:18:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:18:37 +0100 (CET) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Luca Muscariello cc: bloat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <65EAC6C1-4688-46B6-A575-A6C7F2C066C5@heistp.net> <86b16a95-e47d-896b-9d43-69c65c52afc7@kit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Bloat] when does the CoDel part of fq_codel help in the real world? X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:18:38 -0000 On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, Luca Muscariello wrote: > This is a whole different discussion but if you want to have a per-user > context at the BNG level + TM + FQ I'm not sure that kind of beast will > ever exist. Unless you have a very small user fan-out the hardware > clocks could loop over several thousands of contexts. You should expect > those kind of features to be in the CMTS or OLT. This is per queue per customer access port (250 customers per 10GE port, so 250 queues). It's on an "service edge" linecard that I imagine people use for BNG purposes. I tend to not use words like that because to me a router is a router. I do not do coax. I do not do PON. I do point to point ethernet using routers and switches, like god^WIEEE intended. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se