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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e0b210cc9280c5acb10384232ce63533; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 06:59:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <9B529996-9FF0-4487-8F74-B01230E6FCA1@viagenie.ca> <11567.1720044376@obiwan.sandelman.ca> <8d89d7ec-558e-4498-9457-3c6dd90eb03f@rogers.com> <8FBDAF2F-DF18-4FFD-A589-EF2323B6820A@gmx.de> Content-Language: en-US From: David Collier-Brown In-Reply-To: <8FBDAF2F-DF18-4FFD-A589-EF2323B6820A@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22501 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: Re: [Bloat] An ACM Queue article about bloat and LibraQoS X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:00:00 -0000 On 2024-07-15 05:18, Sebastian Moeller via Bloat wrote: > Hi Dave, > > nice! I only would have wished for the A-grade waveform result as well, it is a bit of a downer that the last figure show the unpleasant 'before' status only. > > Regards > Sebastian That was a deliberate action on my part: the "after" status shows much smaller throughput numbers, leading observant readers to ask if improving latency didn't destroy one's bandwidth. I suspect that the throughputs "with bloat" are greatly exaggerated... from counting the extra data that fills the bloated buffers (;-)) --dave > >> On 14. Jul 2024, at 23:30, David Collier-Brown via Bloat wrote: >> >> I have a new article on ACM Queue, at https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3674953 >> "If you're an ISP and all your customers hate you, take heart. This is now a solvable problem." >> It's part of a tongue-in-cheek series called "You Don't Know Jack", and it's about Bufferbloat and the LibreQoS project. >> --dave >> -- >> David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify >> System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest >> davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain >> _______________________________________________ >> Bloat mailing list >> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain