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charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 3:02=E2=80=AFAM Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote: [SM] OK, I will bite, how do you measure achievable throughput without a= ctually generating it? Packet-pair techniques are notoriously imprecise and= have funny failure modes. When you mention packet-pair techniques, are you referring to Kathleen Nich= ols' passive ping work, or some other correlation scheme? I'm interested in the idea of measuring packet timings to our customers as = a way of detecting short-lived issues, which I find excessively annoying to= detect and quantify (;-)) --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com | -- Mark Twain CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including a= ny and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for= the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any dissemination, distribution, co= pying or disclosure is strictly prohibited and is not a waiver of confident= iality. 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On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 3:02=E2=80=AFAM Sebastian Moeller via Starlink <= a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat= .net"> <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

   [SM] OK, I will bite, how do you mea= sure achievable throughput without actually generating it? Packet-pair tech= niques are notoriously imprecise and have funny failure modes.


When you mention packet-pair techniques, are you referring to Kathleen N= ichols' passive ping work, or some other correlation scheme?

I'm interested in the idea of measuring packet timings to our customers = as a way of detecting short-lived issues, which I find excessively annoying= to detect and quantify (;-))

--dave

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