From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x534.google.com (mail-ed1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::534]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC0B83CB57 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x534.google.com with SMTP id h8so61126349ede.8 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; t=1679412130; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LlpzrQeFmv4nmdaIUUuZmb1PCaM07u2l5dNYOkLeK24=; b=k0rqV3oMfnZ9icKGTTIcSYbq8zVTddhBctI92GUhtv02sHbnj0MV5/iqFXGQKgPlT6 /+VPmS3kXnKdoFRz76L6mv05oIzi3bDKf2hyG6dTmmojUqKlUR/f+8RmJw7pKoqeZYnI 6o40r4qS6R/z70mFXG70rvxNG3kVrMEKJ4jQCJJgZzKbeZma/0V4FKOGZPpwXWRmDfGH XrPu0OcbFIUnxLe5DR5bcwUZk41XZ5+x3DLzOKB2sSlhk3txK2RBmrMVPbEWZFHvw8cu 1muj6+UZU5177sN+1Z2uEDU/d6S6IzOH4vQLWfK8bvp6rheM6PgdzOyuinYUjyHrW4Zr kzng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1679412130; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:content-language :references:to:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LlpzrQeFmv4nmdaIUUuZmb1PCaM07u2l5dNYOkLeK24=; b=If1PDPXEsbVJprlWAHGsL10p4xls300Vnqs3uhWd2U2ypcYIDqHIbVZXie6fUm9dmT xP/v1JDshxBXTdAT5rBRWkUiR0WlBL35nc/AewiBi3X/4dl/Kr77gs0j//QWwBT+6pQL wlSKBInqyPsU5OOfXu8LKFbcNkfkAwa8fm0Kq4aTx9GyzEZ35+zjaKSmAuJnJB7V3eKD rYeR1iTgb6aO8iGX1J/Q/YLEOgJqOPq8J8FK9FA8LtCVkLQqL9R5YstaFjSVzGnRm6zT DN/a/OHebiSIyw7qu2yejN7MD+haea7+r6H07nYJoI6aM2+zYkVBzM1H+r+pP2nZWidq ePSA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKV3T+FZz5VkVT8L+T6mETsux/OBPK1tE3vsx1akfwwXvql2y4UW G7smAFdr1L5epqub0V41kTy/789m+q0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set88iHy9+ErQ0ROQ1JvWXP2Lwy6bF2IxBt8syuFqjpY9zm1WgGeJInxOBKMXE8rlpw8bfNkW0w== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:54cf:b0:931:ab85:1be2 with SMTP id c15-20020a17090654cf00b00931ab851be2mr3430485ejp.46.1679412130406; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dracor.xperim.be (82.228-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be. [80.200.228.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x11-20020a1709064a8b00b009342fe44911sm3009547eju.123.2023.03.21.08.22.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.184] (bajor.xperim.be [192.168.1.184]) by dracor.xperim.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5890838062E; Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:22:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 16:22:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.8.0 To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <20230321001019.GA4531@sunf68.rd.bbc.co.uk> <46A0D5B3-FFAA-40A3-B94C-6D01C99D92EB@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Jan Ceuleers In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Annoyed at 5/1 Mbps... X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:22:11 -0000 On 21/03/2023 13:31, Sebastian Moeller via Bloat wrote: (...) > Noki's proprietary (aka not ITU) @% Gbps PON seems to be abbreviated 25GS-PON. 25GSPON is in fact not proprietary. It was standardised by means of an MSA (multi-source agreement) rather than through the ITU-T, but it is standardised and not limited to a single vendor. https://www.25gspon-msa.org/ HTH, Jan