On 2019-03-20 4:29 p.m., David Lang wrote: > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote: > >> On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >>> >>> This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants >>> 10-15 year old hosts to be able to connect to a network and perform >>> basic networking. It might not be very optimized, but the basic >>> function should be there. New functionality can optimize for >>> different factors, but making older host stop working is frowned upon. >> >> Fortunately this is a solved problem in capacity planning: you >> replace machines often enough that they're not constantly out of >> service being repaired. 10 to 15 human-years is the equivalent of 70 >> to 105 of the dog-years we use in this silly business (;-)) > > I have quite a number of consumer devices from 2000 or earlier still > running, consumer endpoints (aka IoT devices) do not get updated very > much, if at all. > > David Lang Interesting thought: I wasn't expecting consumer devices from 14 years ago! What do you have? In our house, * the cable modem is about a year old, * it's predecessor was about 5 when it died, * the old printer was 3 years old * the new one is about 4 * my homemade PVR is about 6, and is starting to look elderly, and * the old cable box was about 3, * the new one about one * and my netbook is older than the PVR by maybe a year or so (;-)) --dave (I intentionally skipped IOT devices, as I expect they could change/pivot hugely about the time the market starts to mature, -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain