From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com>
To: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>,
Greg White <g.white@CableLabs.com>
Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:08:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd77bbfc-1bf6-433e-80d2-bf9b203a0051@reed.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D1319E8B.FD6CC%jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com>
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SamKnows is carefully constructed politically to claim that everyone has great service and no problems are detected. They were constructed by opponents of government supervision - the corporate FCC lobby.
Don't believe they have any incentive to measure customer relevant measures
M-Lab is better by far. But control by Google automatically discredits it's data. As well as the claims by operators that measurements by independent parties violate their trade secrets. Winning that battle requires a group that can measure while supporting a very expensive defense against lawsuits by operators making such claim of trade secrecy.
Criticizing M-LAB is just fodder fir the operators' lobby in DC.
On Mar 20, 2015, "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>*I realize not everyone likes the Ookla tool, but it is popular and
>about
>>as "sexy" as you are going to get with a network performance tool.
>
>Ookla has recently been acquired by Ziff-Davis
>(http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ziff-davis-acquires-ookla-120100454.html).
>I am not sure have that may influence their potential involvement. I
>have
>suggested they add this test previously. I also suggested it be added
>to
>the FCC¹s SamKnows / Measuring Broadband American platform and that the
>FCC potentially does a one-off special report on the results.
>
>- Jason
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2015-03-19 17:11 ` Dave Taht
2015-03-19 19:58 ` Livingood, Jason
2015-03-19 20:29 ` dpreed
2015-03-19 23:18 ` Greg White
2015-03-20 8:18 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 13:31 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-20 13:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-03-20 14:05 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 10:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-03-20 13:50 ` [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?) Rich Brown
2015-03-29 17:36 ` Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-30 7:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-30 13:56 ` Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-30 14:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-30 14:20 ` Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-30 14:55 ` Dave Taht
2015-03-30 16:05 ` Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-31 5:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2015-04-01 17:21 ` Pedro Tumusok
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2015-04-07 17:16 ` [Bloat] Fwd: " Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-30 16:20 ` [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2015-03-31 1:30 ` Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-31 4:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-30 14:42 ` [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-03-20 13:57 ` [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation? Livingood, Jason
2015-03-20 14:08 ` David P. Reed [this message]
2015-03-20 14:14 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 14:48 ` Matt Mathis
2015-03-20 13:48 ` Jim Gettys
2015-03-20 14:11 ` Livingood, Jason
2015-03-20 14:54 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 15:31 ` Jim Gettys
2015-03-20 15:39 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 16:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-20 20:59 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 23:47 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-21 0:08 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:03 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:13 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2015-03-21 0:25 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-21 0:38 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-22 4:15 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:15 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:29 ` David Lang
2015-03-22 4:10 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 18:14 ` Jonathan Morton
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