On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019, Dave Taht wrote: > >> Another ietf idea that makes me crazy is the motto of "no host >> changes" in homenet, and "dumb endpoints" - when we live in an age >> where we have quad cores and AI coprocessors in everybody's hands. Dumb endpoints is a huge change from the design of the internet (and ARPAnet), with a dumb middle and smart ends:  I suspect the original commentator was talking about mere /relative/ dumbness... > > This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants > 10-15 year old hosts to be able to connect to a network and perform > basic networking. It might not be very optimized, but the basic > function should be there. New functionality can optimize for different > factors, but making older host stop working is frowned upon. Fortunately this is a solved problem in capacity planning: you replace machines often enough that they're not constantly out of service being repaired. 10 to 15 human-years is the equivalent of 70 to 105 of the dog-years we use in this silly business (;-)) The oldest machine I use is a dps8-m, and I'll be slightly amazed if we can provide native TCP. Right now I ssh into the virtual machine that's running it, all so I can continue to fiddle around with Multics. --dave (DavidBrown.TSDC@HI-Multics.ARPA) c-b -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest davecb@spamcop.net | -- Mark Twain