From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0A953B2A4 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.10.50] ([93.233.79.61]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwIuc-1fGF3Q1CFq-01830s; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:09:34 +0100 To: Ken Birman , 'Dave Taht' Cc: Bob Briscoe , "ken@cs.cornell.edu" , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" References: <4d54f24f-ce83-34a0-41f3-9f728420d548@gmx.net> <87shdr0vt6.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <79f4d92c-74f4-8cd0-9d38-e51a668cb9b6@gmx.net> <796aa11e-9e35-cf34-e456-6ae98d1875d6@bobbriscoe.net> <87fu9f72za.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> From: Matthias Tafelmeier Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:09:32 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha384; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BS1vLpG9tVQIScX79rwrFtGoA6gXf7mDh" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Vsdd/rIBSaCB7//sfAEqnCkhZSnSFw1SQLxyr7IgG6WJCmOPina UfKiVLgxyPz1Bbg25fcrzofQLP3v8375NNnrO8D8x/FKmFa44dx2jp23v+WO6Mx/Q/CFGaK shWwAFSfJX0VmvaQRQmrPfwP5ENuScE+sAZGRvF6xrQxebzoQO1nL2BAQ2X1Ysk07Gwz9iS sJcMryO5bt5oGJ1HKQpVQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+GNY/jcGFBA=:b4vsaRVeMPlUh9t1x0kLor +slApgHkztTKFilxz8qAoOUvNy0kCrEF4OioDL4TXYpKXN0sfTccT3v7ycBMUKgsUPtwU75Mq nmB3RZE2T+rtJJzGFUv9yqcTpZcliP5Nqfaf5f1JoAKESiBloP4xni2LDw0xDFNOafjDXiIav C5STOvpmSGUckpXkF4i7h1IdhmxNEc83XqE8E7mmbI49LVEX81h7wsl+Z7v/QoJNXoonYes16 FghwnHwjKfU/dvhFndWHPmImF0toz2ZGxaaTMH8Wvaw81o9GKtmq+Ym1oOkbI20Gm4RhqDhk5 PeuYx7nIdMHl3UHYg6YA7/upoDSVQPhMDhvtDxSFaHLk1tVV0qZIAa9tz1uvi33zD+QOSTgHp PPZdR/hYe+Az3eVxqCyqayMth8uofJwfX0PAB+RzCsfS9PWd5soLRg+7Kx4K8fM/86QWLhdBK NZCd+/GjgEWHJXvWhsfw+N65t9snuFHqbgf4yzzV5Ri6neMdotpIat774CA8tlsMLASdIy9Av YHI4ayB78d/YkFNsqNMC3O516RLBCOmc/NPtqTemkpOesq2pc8CsZTtHczg8Sm3EPdnlDjWX3 nqUxwDVXoSd1vYWhSNP2RjpgU0jfwF5mDFdvlckTiCrH1So6+Q38tOvy325Bo7wiIGWUdjpQs TLR2eOgAyXu56ZiTqcBoEFgpG5eTSFYY9l1WG320emufNH9oInPavPuWIFaMepYFADRpHg53a 8QMWdTo/LhIyRarRIom5j+dTDzMoU/UapoJr4ptXGfkKcPlzzhtx++/UyJgwMWA/nxKfU5Ipq LdWgftJXQs+1fapoosAW9hwylNonQ== Subject: Re: [Bloat] DETNET X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:10:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BS1vLpG9tVQIScX79rwrFtGoA6gXf7mDh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ImjLIRu2cgwlkEHe1uWefJuNN2ikpBTHd"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthias Tafelmeier To: Ken Birman , 'Dave Taht' Cc: Bob Briscoe , "ken@cs.cornell.edu" , "bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Bloat] DETNET References: <4d54f24f-ce83-34a0-41f3-9f728420d548@gmx.net> <87shdr0vt6.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <79f4d92c-74f4-8cd0-9d38-e51a668cb9b6@gmx.net> <796aa11e-9e35-cf34-e456-6ae98d1875d6@bobbriscoe.net> <87fu9f72za.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> In-Reply-To: --ImjLIRu2cgwlkEHe1uWefJuNN2ikpBTHd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------602601F04B246010D9747CB6" Content-Language: de-DE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------602601F04B246010D9747CB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/15/2017 08:45 PM, Ken Birman wrote: > I'm missing context. Can someone tell me why I'm being cc'ed on these?= =20 right, I cced you so I'm liable to clarify. > Topic seems germane to me (Derecho uses RDMA on RoCE) but I'm unclear w= hat this thread is "about" I perceived you as a strong kind of advocate for RDMA, at least that's a supposition I hold ever since having read your blogs/research around it. It was mentioned here in context with other existing or already pertaining technologies as to the purpose of improving network performance in general - especially for certain domains. Therefore, I thought blending/exchanging knowledge or inciting a discussion might be profitable for both worlds. 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