Off-topic, my custom phone manufacturer posted a supposed picture of the handset size they expected to use to provide acceptable cooling and battery life: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BC-611_Radio_Transmitter-Receiver_-_National_Cryptologic_Museum_-_DSC07810.JPG --dave On 2019-10-04 3:05 p.m., Dave Taht wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 06:24:07 +0300 Jonathan Morton wrote: On 4 Sep, 2019, at 6:17 am, Dave Taht wrote: …and people jump off of cable as soon as they can get fiber... but that's due to the RTT more than the bandwidth. And also due to the downright predatory pricing/billing practices of the typical cable ISP. I think an awful lot of people would take any viable alternative at this point, purely due to that factor. Which is why cable industry lobbyists are doing their level best to kill municipal fibre. I am convinced that all the hype about 5G will die when people see how the ISP's in the US will want to price it. They will certainly want to charge a premium for 5G to avoid under cutting their current overpriced service. -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com | -- Mark Twain CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including any and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any dissemination, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited and is not a waiver of confidentiality. If you have received this telecommunication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return electronic mail and delete the message from your inbox and deleted items folders. This telecommunication does not constitute an express or implied agreement to conduct transactions by electronic means, nor does it constitute a contract offer, a contract amendment or an acceptance of a contract offer. Contract terms contained in this telecommunication are subject to legal review and the completion of formal documentation and are not binding until same is confirmed in writing and has been signed by an authorized signatory.