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[176.93.179.22]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j6sm8284587lja.23.2020.08.09.14.36.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Aug 2020 14:36:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Priority: 3 To: tomh@tomh.org Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net,davecb@spamcop.net From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <225a9c89-ac76-f21e-1450-5deeb3cd23eb@tomh.org> References: <225a9c89-ac76-f21e-1450-5deeb3cd23eb@tomh.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 21:35:59 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Bloat] How about a topical LWN article on demonstrating the real-world goodness of CAKE? 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