From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:7028]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E08F3B25D for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dair-2506.local (c-73-71-234-12.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.71.234.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.taht.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB8262131E; Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:14:54 +0000 (UTC) To: "aqm@ietf.org" , rmcat@ietf.org, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net From: =?UTF-8?Q?Dave_T=c3=a4ht?= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 23:14:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Bloat] webrtc vs aqm and/or sfq X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 06:14:56 -0000 Pretty good paper at: http://c3lab.poliba.it/images/0/0e/Gcc_aqm.pdf I do keep hoping the videoconferencing folk give ecn a shot one day, especially for iframes. Has anyone pursued the early line of work for ecn that was in nada, or tried to add it to gcc? Another hope is that we see more videoconferencing analyses on wifi and at higher baseline rates than 2mbit.