From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6E0221F2D8 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YftHf-0005wT-QB for bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:56:59 +0200 Received: from 66-87-138-176.pools.spcsdns.net ([66.87.138.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:56:59 +0200 Received: from eternaleye by 66-87-138-176.pools.spcsdns.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 18:56:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net From: Alex Elsayed Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:56:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20150408080549.znwuh3b28wco4g8g@webmail.cs.aplus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-87-138-176.pools.spcsdns.net User-Agent: KNode/4.14.6 Subject: Re: [Bloat] Question about Buffer Bloat and Verizon Fios X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 16:57:33 -0000 Dave Taht wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:05 AM, wrote: >> Reason is Verizon has a combo router/modem. > > They CAN be configured in a bridge mode if you desire, but you can > usually just put cero in front of it to do everything else > (shaping/wifi) and be golden. > > See the intertubes for how to switch to bridging verizon gear (if you > want to). It is overly complex. There's actually even more nuance to it than that: FiOS (although, I thought that was owned by Frontier now? It certainly was when I had it up here [.wa.us]) with TV service requires MoCA (Multimedia over CoAxial), and thus requires the use of their (awful) combined router/wifi/MoCA bridge that connects to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) over MoCA. In that case, you need to set it up to bridge to your own router behind it, &c. However, if you are using internet/phone-only FiOS service, you can get the service technician to hook your router directly to the ONT via Ethernet, as it supports both.