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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: davecb@spamcop.net
Cc: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] My (controversial) position paper on TCP
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:29:43 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1903201327260.4946@qynat-yncgbc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e36d561b-b651-1c45-ae0c-6189d50e0e21@rogers.com>

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, David Collier-Brown wrote:

> On 2019-03-20 10:28 a.m., Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>> 
>> This isn't a resource problem, it's a code problem. The IETF wants 10-15 
>> year old hosts to be able to connect to a network and perform basic 
>> networking. It might not be very optimized, but the basic function should 
>> be there. New functionality can optimize for different factors, but making 
>> older host stop working is frowned upon.
>
> Fortunately this is a solved problem in capacity planning: you replace 
> machines often enough that they're not constantly out of service being 
> repaired. 10 to 15 human-years is the equivalent of 70 to 105 of the 
> dog-years we use in this silly business (;-))

I have quite a number of consumer devices from 2000 or earlier still running, 
consumer endpoints (aka IoT devices) do not get updated very much, if at all.

David Lang

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-20 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-18 10:04 [Bloat] " Dave Taht
2019-03-18 22:03 ` David Collier-Brown
2019-03-20 14:28 ` [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] " Mikael Abrahamsson
2019-03-20 18:33   ` David Collier-Brown
2019-03-20 20:29     ` David Lang [this message]
2019-03-20 21:42       ` David Collier-Brown
2019-03-20 22:28         ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-20 23:12           ` Dave Collier-Brown
2019-03-20 22:55         ` David Lang

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