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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Erik Auerswald <auerswal@unix-ag.uni-kl.de>, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] Questions for Bufferbloat Wikipedia article
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:54:46 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2104061654130.18176@qynat-yncgbc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210406163217.46eabd74@hermes.local>

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

> For Wikipedia it is important to make clear:
>  * the symptoms = large latency

more precisely, large latency under load

David Lang

>  * the cause = large buffers and aggressive protocols
>  * the solutions = AQM, smaller buffers, pacing, better congestion control, etc.
>
> People can argue over best combination of solutions but the symptoms and
> causes should be defined, and non-contentious.
>
> It is too easy to go off in the weeds and have the solution of the day.
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-06 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 12:46 Rich Brown
2021-04-05 15:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-04-05 15:24   ` David Lang
2021-04-05 15:57     ` Dave Collier-Brown
2021-04-05 16:25     ` Kelvin Edmison
2021-04-05 18:00 ` [Bloat] Questions for Bufferbloat Wikipedia article - question #2 Rich Brown
2021-04-05 18:08   ` David Lang
2021-04-05 20:30     ` Erik Auerswald
2021-04-05 20:36       ` Dave Taht
2021-04-05 21:49 ` [Bloat] Questions for Bufferbloat Wikipedia article Sebastian Moeller
2021-04-05 21:55   ` Dave Taht
2021-04-06  0:47   ` Erik Auerswald
2021-04-06  6:31     ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-04-06 18:50       ` Erik Auerswald
2021-04-06 20:02         ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2021-04-06 21:59           ` Erik Auerswald
2021-04-06 23:32             ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-04-06 23:54               ` David Lang [this message]
2021-04-07 11:06             ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2021-04-27  1:41               ` Dave Taht
2021-04-27  7:25                 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2021-04-06 20:01       ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2021-04-06 21:30         ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-04-06 21:36           ` Jonathan Morton
2021-04-07 10:39           ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2021-04-06 18:54 ` Neil Davies

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