From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DF033B2A4; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-laptop (unknown [10.2.0.162]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CCAF449E; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@dlang-laptop To: Dave Taht cc: bloat , Cake List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8323328-1370529025-1618855245=:18176" Subject: Re: [Bloat] starlink testing X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:00:46 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --8323328-1370529025-1618855245=:18176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT are you able to sniff between the router and the dish? I'm curious how much of the smarts is in the dish vs the router. My hope is that the router is just a conventional router with the satellite network smarts in the dish. David Lang On Mon, 19 Apr 2021, Dave Taht wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 06:56:33 -0700 > From: Dave Taht > To: bloat , > Cake List > Subject: [Bloat] starlink testing > > I find myself in front of a starlink terminal this morning, and have > been doing various tests. The behavior of their network is like > nothing I've ever seen before, appearing to re-adjust the available > bandwidth on a 10sec interval, and... yes... they have bufferbloat... > bad. > > Still running quite the large battery of tests at the moment. They are > behind a large cgnat, and > no ipv6 is available, either. I can make available some tests and > packet caps if anyone wants a look. > > If anyone would like to drop in on me and help talk me > down^H^H^H^H^H^H^H strategize on how > best to tell 'em about things like fq_codel and cake, I can be found > over here (any login you want, no password) from 7AM PDT through 9AM. > > https://tun.taht.net:8443/group/bufferbloat > > > > -- > "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public > relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman > > dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat --8323328-1370529025-1618855245=:18176--