From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (045-059-245-186.biz.spectrum.com [45.59.245.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB27E3CB37 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 17:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4A21C5D03; Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:57:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang To: Rich Brown cc: bloat In-Reply-To: <86B99DBB-251A-4185-8D35-E33A762BF7B0@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <86B99DBB-251A-4185-8D35-E33A762BF7B0@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Bloat] Disappointment on "Best Newcomer Router" front X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:57:43 -0000 On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Rich Brown via Bloat wrote: > Am I right to despair? Are there no routers out there that we can recommend in good faith that are easy to install, powerful enough (for SQM) at ordinary speeds, and won't break the bank? the problem is the 'easy to install' requirement. Too many vendors (including ones that used to be easy to install) are adding extra hoops to jump through on the newer models. Right now, I'm going for the e8450 (seems to also be listed as e8451 for a single and e8454 for a 4 pack) amazon.com/Linksys-E8451-AX3200-WiFi-Router/dp/B0BJBQK6TH/ but installing requires jumping through a couple hoops (downgrade factory firmware, then install openwrt) Also looking forward to the OpenWRT one router. David Lang