From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (syn-045-059-245-186.biz.spectrum.com [45.59.245.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55F9E3CB37 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.53]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723521E7CDD; Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:58:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 11:58:58 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang To: "jf@jonathanfoulkes.com" cc: David Lang , Sebastian Moeller , Rich Brown , Rich Brown via Bloat In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <8E1D013F-BC13-4FFA-8986-2521FEB39A89@gmail.com> <62A919E9-EAFD-434C-BF2B-302D9E5A50E0@gmx.de> <1nq06157-745n-0r7n-310s-64nq8n90sp09@ynat.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="228850167-101556224-1733342338=:4717" Subject: Re: [Bloat] Updates to bufferbloat.net site X-BeenThere: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General list for discussing Bufferbloat List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:58:59 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --228850167-101556224-1733342338=:4717 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT jf@jonathanfoulkes.com wrote: > I see it as a good thing, as it might promote better placement for WiFi coverage, vs where a tangle of wires is tolerated. The POE option further enhances that angle. > > An unmanaged POE switch is affordable; if one is technical, then a managed one is not much more. 8 port managed switch, list price $50, on sale for $30 (5 port is on sale for $18) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K4DS5KU?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 > As a data point, my five-port home router has only two in use: the WAN port, and one LAN/VLAN port connected to the main household managed switch. yep, people who do wires usually aren't satisfied with the switch in the AP. David Lang >> On Dec 4, 2024, at 2:22 PM, David Lang via Bloat wrote: >> >>> >>> [SM] Ordered One as well... that said, this is a decent AP package, but will likely not be a general all-in-one router (lack of a modem is likely fine, lack of switch ports less so), especially given the price... >>> https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/What_can_I_do_about_Bufferbloat/ >> >> I don't think that will be as much of a problem as you think, most people are all-wireless in their houses nowdays, and small, programmable switches are pretty cheap if you need them. > > --228850167-101556224-1733342338=:4717--