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From: Michael Yartys <michael.yartys@protonmail.com>
To: sina@waveform.com, bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Bloat] waveform bufferbloat test is GOOOD
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 09:43:57 +0000	[thread overview]
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It seems like the bufferbloat test is having some issues on Firefox mobile on Android: https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=54563bc4-03dc-4f99-be0f-6d969a70d71c

The loaded latency is obviously wrong. I don't have this issue with Google Chrome on Android: https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=81877531-2d9c-40f6-b440-8a8338923b1e

It's also a bit strange that the unloaded latency is so much higher on Android compared to the values I get on my laptop (I get an unloaded latency of 3 ms with fast.com on Android): https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=74727162-bbe4-4fdc-95f4-a4e0f2fcfdfe

Michael

-------- Original Message --------
On 3 Feb 2021, 12:54, Sina Khanifar < sina@waveform.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> It's funny that this thread should pop up now … I drafted a long
> email to send to the list two nights ago. I was planning to announce
> that we were almost ready to actually launch our updated bufferbloat
> test, but then we found some pesky bugs that we're now working to
> squash.
>
> We should have them all sorted out this week or early next week, and
> I'll finally send my longer email to the group that covers all the
> changes we made since we shared an early beta a couple of months back.
>
> Best,
>
> Sina.
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:42 AM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>>
>> I wonder what is going on with the reported latencies. I see negative latency numbers indicating that the report is presenting a difference, maybe unloaded minus the direction under tests? My tests with SQM also report the unloaded latency figure ion the top right as 0ms (while my link forces A >=12ms RTT to the first IP address after my router). I would guess that there is still some development going on and hopefully that will be fixed.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 2, 2021, at 17:27, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Regrettably my joy only lasted a few hours, as there was confirmation
>> > bias. Try it with sqm off or on. Running a complete battery of tests
>> > now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:55 AM Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Excellent, nice to see another comprehensive test.
>> >> I also like that they list the IQrouter in the set of routers that mitigate bloat ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Since I recently shared the DSLreports test from my line, here is the same line tested via this new site:
>> >> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=f10cfe50-6dd2-4ae3-9b40-dedd2b5087c6
>> >>
>> >> Nice to see that A+ and zeros for bloat.
>> >>
>> >> for reference, the dslreports test: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/67140120
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:33 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=bea9f548-086a-4a74-bbde-b05b33f689a2
>> >>
>> >> I am very happy with this test, and I must admit, if it was discussed
>> >> here, already, I must have missed the thread. Not only is the test
>> >> well structured and fast - and some people like whisker plots more
>> >> than me, my blessed cdfs, & the FAQ is brilliant.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat#erid5407983
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
>> >> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
>> >>
>> >> dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-02  3:33 Dave Taht
2021-02-02 13:55 ` Jonathan Foulkes
2021-02-02 16:27   ` Dave Taht
2021-02-03  9:42     ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-02-03 11:54       ` Sina Khanifar
2021-02-03 21:03         ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-02-04  9:43         ` Michael Yartys [this message]

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