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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] issue with Cake and bpf filter
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:30:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03B32CF6-2926-42A7-A407-CBD16BA38F0D@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BC7BB9BC-1177-49F6-ACE7-915389EDC894@gmail.com>


> On Aug 22, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 22 Aug, 2018, at 12:06 am, Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
>> 
>> when fq_codel is the qdisc, the eBPF action is only called "once in a while”
> 
> One difference between fq_codel and Cake is that the former - which has no shaper - will "bypass" packets when it's empty and there's no back-pressure filling it.  In that case no packet classification occurs and filters will not be called.  Or at least, that's how it used to be set up; I haven't looked at it recently.  Cake does not rely on the same set of assumptions, so will always call the filter.

Aha, that sounds likely, I’ll try with htb and a rate limit. Testing with fq_codel was challenging as I had to “do stuff” until my printk’s were eventually called, but it’s easier now that I can use cake. I suppose in my case fq_codel’s behavior would be ok in production, because if there’s no queue then there’s no need to classify. Maybe in some other cases (like gathering stats), it could be problematic.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-22  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-12  8:17 Pete Heist
2018-08-12 10:23 ` Pete Heist
2018-08-12 13:41   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-12 19:42     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-12 21:34       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-13  0:21         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-13  5:44           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-13 11:01           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-21 11:25             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-21 21:06               ` Pete Heist
2018-08-21 21:17                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-21 21:46                   ` Pete Heist
2018-08-22  9:49                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-22  9:41                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-22  6:17                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-22  9:30                   ` Pete Heist [this message]
2018-08-22  9:37                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-22  9:51                       ` Pete Heist
2018-08-22 10:00                         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-08-22 10:13                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-22 10:32                             ` Pete Heist

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