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From: moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] second system syndrome
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:51:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04D2C674-5C3D-443A-96E0-62B203F845FE@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4qkACoyARnuCwq1x6EEXuZ5p0Y_s1K0u2paMdnqa0Z3w@mail.gmail.com>

> [...]
> After the GRO code is proven I'd rip out sebastian's treasured last
> packet size stat, too.

	Sad ;).  But didn’t your numbers comparing bcake versus cake show that all of the additional statistics cost nothing, at least on the arm platform? I know that my focus on per-paket overhead looks a bit peculiar, but since there was a niche at the time, I occupied it ;) and now I am going to defend my turf. 
Could I argue here with an appeal to authority then, and make cake report the same stats as fq_codel does (I assume Eric had good reasons for each of the stats, it is purely accidental that fq_codel reports maxpackets ;) :

qdisc fq_codel 130: dev ifb4pppoe-ge00 parent 1:13 limit 1001p flows 1024 quantum 300 target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms ecn 
 Sent 1326934 bytes 974 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0) 
 backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 
  maxpacket 1538 drop_overlimit 0 new_flow_count 37 ecn_mark 0
  new_flows_len 1 old_flows_len 7 


> I might rip out all the dscp models in favor of
> the 3 tier sqm one.

	Why 3? I actually want 4 in sqm (basically a thin network control layer (#1) on top of en elevated priority (#2) on top of best-effort(#3) and background (#4)), why? I need a place to stuff a few things like PPP control packets into with minimal delay.

> I'd go back to 32 bits for codel.

	Why? Due to the cost on 32 bit platforms or just on principle?

> 
> My cup overfloweth. My job at the moment is to move the bloat related
> sites elsewhere before isc turns the power off next week.

	You rock; it is incredible that you basically carried most of the infrastructure and administration on top of pushing the de-bloat effort. All I can offer is simply to keep helping people startup with sqm-scripts and tinker a bit with the sqm-scripts machinery (basically “prototyping” stuff along until it catches Toke’s attention and he fixes things for good ;) ) My hope for cake always was, to make helping people get started easier, any additional better performance is sugar on top.

Best Regards
	Sebastian


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-20 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-06 14:53 Dave Taht
2015-12-06 16:08 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-12-07 12:24   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-12-20 12:47     ` Dave Taht
2015-12-20 12:52       ` Dave Taht
2015-12-21  9:02         ` moeller0
2015-12-21 10:40           ` Dave Taht
2015-12-21 11:10             ` moeller0
2015-12-21 12:00               ` Dave Taht
2015-12-21 13:05                 ` moeller0
2015-12-21 15:36                   ` Jonathan Morton
2015-12-21 18:19                     ` moeller0
2015-12-21 20:36                       ` Jonathan Morton
2015-12-21 21:19                         ` moeller0
     [not found]                         ` <8737uukf7z.fsf@toke.dk>
2015-12-22 15:34                           ` Jonathan Morton
2015-12-22 22:30                     ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-12-23 11:43                       ` Dave Taht
2015-12-23 12:14                         ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-12-23 12:27                         ` Jonathan Morton
2015-12-23 12:41                           ` Dave Taht
2015-12-23 13:06                             ` Jonathan Morton
2015-12-23 14:58                               ` Dave Taht
2015-12-20 13:51       ` moeller0 [this message]
2015-12-06 18:21 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant

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