From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22d.google.com (mail-lj1-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 638343B29E for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2020 10:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r19so19058061ljg.3 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 07:25:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FQGP6/7QABARZDeIrz8qFyKMmCSyXKN3Qi8Lwr/nrAI=; b=n5L47ej/c45dFx/6NbEJjNiqnVpKriJoVEIdE38vtLp9QbGsztzF75tzL7LDpczokx /Ca64ZGFSHACXTA/dqi7C6TM8SXOHazGRT15OXIqaYkdBRTqUDiAs+ciT9rBeZgFvN7+ DkLIGG3qGWUFT006KSEhCysHwiefZw5FWumVNVopahIYSl/qy0q3xI8RSQMJHdImhKg1 frbStknDS7E/Z/YfULb4/uKboNhkSy/QtfSRRPoy/WW2FERz1SVi+Uk6b+5FzFPi9KoD aStthFwYJsYBo4rmLKEZLQQJA0UDZKCep6thPCXmtbmop7xDQH45ip0/cDJgph0mPFlw mxIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FQGP6/7QABARZDeIrz8qFyKMmCSyXKN3Qi8Lwr/nrAI=; b=WJ6d5H6SDSP9avdKcOH/bV6foJIUFSab/ohb9dJPT+AqeR/4ivgV6mG4FxPs49aAv0 VUF9k3/cFi0FNBGvSWFo7DcBJipet2QHrvQhBFUm+7VWA9e1dTmsXFiftK2uYoHbLL3R KlzGx6IL0GZnLFz+3kuyrcBUEOz5xrRgZDGiRAGXVYjMQxTx+xsOHz3hoDXLC+xTZDnb RTOiCQgrOs9c8PMqahIAqH0mj7UdURmnaaHN82Phw/hsys5IDOGEWnT3A27GoiJHsR0S mltGYHqNvolK4eayCrPeTfLn2j7whRA0G+9wa3OK3fljZ/mSmwt2it1pIXozLS7llpoB d6Bg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXzwvRjDRCPgdYNaoQ6u3DU55V0eY0EZlQQTXxLDNsTiE68EW63 qE59I76cPD6JYGXK7+9WzeKvoYIY X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwb+qWBElKVs+Vtnf3NVM+6PQGYWNSEHRscxBNktsrAAgr7mzmBzbcIboa7/UDfyeZyzUpiQQ== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:3202:: with SMTP id y2mr18642022ljy.132.1580829955337; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 07:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-229-102-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.229.102]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm10843616lfj.29.2020.02.04.07.25.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2020 07:25:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 17:25:53 +0200 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <07250850-5FAF-4AB7-9551-0B26D648AF3D@gmail.com> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B8rn_Ivar_Teigen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake in mac80211 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2020 15:25:56 -0000 > On 4 Feb, 2020, at 5:20 pm, Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen = wrote: >=20 > Are there any plans, work or just comments on the idea of implementing = cake in mac80211 as was done with fq_codel? To consider doing that, there'd have to be a concrete benefit to doing = so. Most of Cake's most useful features, beyond what fq_codel already = supports, are actually implied or even done better by the WiFi = environment and the mac80211 layer adaptation (particularly airtime = fairness). You can of course attach a Cake instance to the wifi interface as well, = if you have a need to do so. - Jonathan Morton=