Hi All, My brain woke up with this idea rattling around in it this morning...obviously the subconscious has been busy. So here it is: Is there any way to use the egress drop signalling at ingress time to drop stuff before it gets into the queue so then we don't have to drop it at egress? Something like: At enqueue if we've a matching flow check to see if that flow had been in egress 'fast dropping' state *and* know how much data in terms of time it had to fast drop to get the queue back under the nominal time threshold. If say it had to drop 10ms worth of packets to get back to the nominal 5ms threshold then it dropped 67% of the packets/data. I'd like to think of that as an 'unresponsive flow'...hence could it be possible to use that information at ingress time and in essence drop (some? 66%?) of them there, we can also signal congestion to the stack at that point to (cake already does this signalling when getting to its buffer size limit) Probably a very silly idea. -- Thanks, Kevin@Darbyshire-Bryant.me.uk M: +44 7947 355344 H: +44 1256 478597