From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 120E93B2A4 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2bfc1d8f2d2so59857761fa.0 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1695075186; x=1695679986; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=1pro0J4ACuDK6Fcf7gSPoOBXlS8qMDkARIB1fVptMVA=; b=FyJP5ayIH++5wI7l5QrVR6M00Tq7Lbg8zwCBioRPCLno9kqTe5f7njBqnK8N7+2xZj ovcCmaFFMDz0VWRvjwIlQABeAmREreD+tv7D3DL3toS77ER6IaqMCeXJyjSNHknA9y5/ 1wuYMhembRFn7CEgvKawzwEGiNI/h+COlJyYwQVO+mArFdyB3MymN/cT9K5klyI43sH9 txGObXnwyB8F8iGJ4CUG/p0jxJ2UQBui/WDxD0XUV8+re+GS42DFCuINySF9eSks55JG p6dRSBkz965mxuh7yEUXNVzRQs/Skkg6WIXNoVphmSzfqdjxHo7VH2WzYRVPd6EFUU2A vw0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1695075186; x=1695679986; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1pro0J4ACuDK6Fcf7gSPoOBXlS8qMDkARIB1fVptMVA=; b=F+KXVUxZVIKEQstS4tarhxXtzFqlnOWM/rssEDp8lBKXOtIT3ytqOsfXe3iLB2mt5k 0m9LBKNtcsbj9nLtohuDaoEe83SuPlwoMySQKB58mnA58slbw9DBDN9+91FShdgmGKek LsBqlvFnIZzlSLebfE5y9vJrksqgHuta7c/2MQ4slR4aAFKqlVnhZTElg+TOYr68lPsT ecVYNS7ChXH4Z27G0GV6ARFhF59Y5qeh/Pr8+a4vi8RmEAGCZd1SFegwNeTtRxoY1kcX s8f3P5184z4sso64JzdqdvwxKeGd08sRgHSGXGLB+cPqtwzUiqP8oLFgVGm9fTJgOquO n/UA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxLYAjcQHgU/7+9JDW41dxuRzxUVQ2L5uojG8atMJZxgBV4xlxd 60fFpy/4lDMUAFlzSKHXnmy/UowdIWU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHhmXUmVAKCnBJMFCNSthP9hItLBCa5rbUFu/Ty76PT4fDccBkiXGFUewulNCd1bdA9Amc0OA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:854a:0:b0:2b9:4891:a9ad with SMTP id u10-20020a2e854a000000b002b94891a9admr360937ljj.11.1695075186286; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (178-55-83-36.bb.dnainternet.fi. [178.55.83.36]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h26-20020a2eb0fa000000b002ba045496d0sm2307878ljl.125.2023.09.18.15.13.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 01:13:04 +0300 Cc: Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <115D8B11-D45F-4997-A048-8E3251E86625@gmail.com> References: To: dave seddon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Subject: Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:13:08 -0000 > On 18 Sep, 2023, at 10:50 pm, dave seddon via Cake = wrote: >=20 > The cake tests so far had rtt 1ms and rtt 3ms, which might be too low. = ( If it is too low, then maybe it would make sense to remove "rtt lan =3D= rtt 1ms" option, as it's a misleading configuration option? ) If all your traffic is over the LAN, and you have a machine and = application tuned for the extra-low latencies that a LAN can offer, then = setting LAN-grade targets for Cake might make sense. But most people's = traffic is a mixture, with the performance of Internet traffic being = more important, and that is better served by the *default* settings. You ran fq_codel at its default settings. These are equivalent to = Cake's default settings, so far as the AQM activity is concerned. I'm = just asking for a like-to-like comparison. You could be pleasantly = surprised. - Jonathan Morton=