From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 761423B2A4 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5BC20C45; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:40:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lochnair.net; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=qHy7My8XluMRwHx6OLju0MjZu1 mycwxhl7mskNj1bI8=; b=pnfakfsYFT48KPLOZhvfAS9OdORA86fUsf80UphRGe Dx8KQBhjQBlokHO/gZl10+JKL0MY559zgdS2rVsbfsN5Nc/hicCQ8Efvxv4QbKJt QQBO04cmfR7h/1ExEvselkcxbj14TMdW+RpoSnF+Mxh8JIc0y9afrBDiwlObAkpm Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=qHy7My 8XluMRwHx6OLju0MjZu1mycwxhl7mskNj1bI8=; b=NeC4WClhdEjXtr8H/CqrZA zTberBKBmPHFAijkYmxhkf/wG7tGyTxzwBplgnZouwI7L7f8+0wapmiPaQbv+Dwu LJhEF+kQsi96Y4xcGYakMC0+3t9QaZUNzUsBL7iYWepf1ShcN7mN99HmYG7KCK89 lysxEY7To5zajONhyb6C7vwr+kNd0We0rJKgoOMgAVEgBz/2qvMZ/uxTjbkVfJ7e L4VnI6bwysySuB7vvgEETbxvuRYAlw2i0LnYcAk5CnLH42pF4OjFedhriR+xSXAA Y0he4LxPvLlxSzzSBrelg3cykqpR5I6notMLAloc5uCro4kA4PZtQGwc6+SD3K+Q == X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id BDCBABAB61; Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:40:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1510785636.2769508.1173964216.79EA5FB4@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Nils Andreas Svee To: Pete Heist Cc: Dave Taht , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_----------=_151078563627695080" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-f89283c9 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:40:36 +0100 References: <87vaic8vv1.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87bmk372du.fsf_-_@nemesis.taht.net> <87lgj75m74.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <1510777703.2726870.1173824208.148E1D2D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <246DB6BC-8045-47F6-8719-8CBDE3E776AD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <246DB6BC-8045-47F6-8719-8CBDE3E776AD@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake upstream Planning X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:40:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_151078563627695080 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mostly because of the Cavium and MediaTek SDKs yes. However in my quest to use a newer kernel I found that EdgeOS/Vyatta uses UnionFS which is not supported on newer kernels than 3.16, so that's gotta be fixed first too. In VyOS they've solved this by using UnionFS-Fuse. On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 21:58, Pete Heist wrote: >=20 >> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Nils Andreas Svee >> wrote:>>=20 >> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 21:19, Dave Taht wrote: >>>=20 >>>> There=E2=80=99s also been a Cake support feature request hanging aroun= d in >>>> the EdgeOS>>>> forums for a while after Lochnair=E2=80=99s successful = work to get it built >>>> for the>>>> EdgeRouter firmware: >>>>=20 >>>> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/Cake-shaper-sup= port/idi-p/1885749>>>=20 >>> I had viewed those folk as a key path to commercialization. >>> They have>>> a great user community and great products. >>>=20 >>>> Maybe this would help get it pushed through into a device that I >>>> think has>>>> pretty wide deployment=E2=80=A6 >>>=20 >>> The problem is, they were stuck on kernel 3.10, when last I >>> looked and>>> oy... >>>=20 >>> I keep hoping we can get cavium to pay attention directly. >> Sadly they're still stuck 3.10. The next FW will be based on the >> 3.10.107 kernel, instead of 3.10.14/3.10.20. So that's something, but>> = it's still ancient and EOL. >=20 > Is the tie to 3.10 due to the dependency on the Cavium SDK for > hardware support?>=20 > Surprisingly I don=E2=80=99t see a feature request so far for a newer ker= nel, > at least among the first half dozen pages or so:>=20 > https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX-Feature-Requests/idb-p/EdgeMAX_Idea= s/tab/most-kudoed>=20 Best Regards Nils --_----------=_151078563627695080 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Mostly because of the Cavium and MediaTek SDKs yes. However in m= y quest to use a newer kernel I found that EdgeOS/Vyatta uses UnionFS which= is not supported on newer kernels than 3.16, so that's gotta be fixed firs= t too. In VyOS they've solved this by using UnionFS-Fuse.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 21:58, Pete Heist wrote:

On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Nils Andre= as Svee <nils@stokkdalen.no>= ; wrote:

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 21:19, Dave Taht wrote:

There=E2=80=99s also been a Cake support fea= ture request hanging around in the EdgeOS
forums for a while after Lochnair=E2=80=99s successful work to get it = built for the
EdgeRouter firmware:


I had viewed those folk as a key path to commercialization. They have<= br>
a great user community and great products.

Maybe this would help get it pushed through = into a device that I think has
pretty wide deployment=E2=80=A6

The problem is, they were stuck on kernel 3.10, when last I looked and=
oy...

I keep hoping we can get cavium to pay attention directly.
Sadly they're still stuck 3.10. The next FW will be based= on the
3.10.107 kernel, instead of 3.10.14/3.10.20. So that's something, but<= br>
it's still ancient and EOL.

Is the tie to 3.10 due to the dependency on the Cavium SDK for hardwar= e support?

Surprisingly I don=E2=80=99t see a feature request so far for a newer = kernel, at least among the first half dozen pages or so:


Best Regards<= br>
Nils

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