Re: [Cake] cake vs fqcodel with 1 client, 4 servers

[George Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com>]

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Of course Jonathan is right. Furthermore adjusting the failsafe ingress
to the number of flows would result in an extremely jerky behaviour
regarding the bandwidth.

I redid the test with net.ipv4.tcp_ecn=1 and I am attaching the
results.


On Tue, 2017-12-05 at 03:38 +0200, Jonathan Morton wrote:
> Ingress mode works by counting dropped packets, not only delivered
> packets, against the shaped limit.  When there's a large number of
> non-ECN flows and a low BDP per flow, a lot of packets are dropped to
> try and keep the intra-flow latency in line.  So the goodput tends to
> decrease when the flow count increases, but this is necessary to
> control latency.
> The modified failsafe ensures that at most a third of the total
> bandwidth will "go missing" this way.  Previously, as much as three-
> quarters could.  At that threshold, Cake stops counting dropped
> packets, trading a reduction in latency control for maintaining
> reasonable goodput.  There is no more sophisticated heuristic that I
> can think of to achieve ingress mode's goals.
> However, it might be worth revisiting an old question once raised
> over fq_codel's use of a fixed set of Codel parameters regardless of
> active flow count.  It was then argued that the delay target wasn't
> dependent on the flow count.
> But when the flow count is high, a fixed delay target plus the
> baseline latency might end up requiring a lower BDP than the sender
> is able to select as a congestion window (typical TCPs have a hard
> lower limit of 4x MSS).  In that case, currently packets are being
> dropped for no effect on send rate.  This wouldn't matter with ECN,
> of course.
> So a better fix might be to adjust the target latency according to
> the number of active bulk flows.  Fortunately for performance, this
> should be a multiply, not a division.
> - Jonathan Morton

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