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Reed" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: "Aaron Wood" , "Cake List" , "Make-Wifi-fast" , "bloat" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Type: plain In-Reply-To: References: <1586011622.632930657@apps.rackspace.com> Message-ID: <1586117860.861216157@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailer: webmail/17.3.5-RC X-Classification-ID: 0d2acd3e-0f94-4d2a-93d9-8194e805d940-1-1 Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] New board that looks interesting X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 20:17:41 -0000 FYI - Fedora 31 continued not trying to "make my life easier" by inventing = new packaging and containerization in the base distro. I think the folks wh= o make Ubuntu think it is a consumer product. Making it harder to self-con= figure in developer-hacker friendly ways.=0A=0AI expect Fedora32 will have = Wireguard (if not earlier).=0A=0AOn Saturday, April 4, 2020 1:36pm, "Dave T= aht" said:=0A=0A> I think I'll wait for y'all to try = it and report back. I trust my=0A> apu2s and I actually kind of like they l= ack a graphics chip and need=0A> to be configured via serial port.=0A> =0A>= In other news I've started testing ubuntu 20.4, which among other=0A> thin= gs, has wireguard in it. I've been really frustrated with the=0A> state of = distributions lately, trying to get any complex thing done=0A> has required= snaps and docker containers and I really prefer running=0A> stuff natively= when possible. Tools that I still rely on like mrtg and=0A> smokeping are = undermaintained, trying to get zoneminder to co-exist=0A> and co-install wi= th anything else (notably jitsi thus far) has been a=0A> real PITA.=0A> =0A= > I am pleased at the increasing size of the ipv6 deployment, my phone=0A> = got it last month....=0A> =0A> I think I've found a babel bug with default = routes...=0A> =0A> and I fired up a kernel build to go hack on the ax200 ch= ips.=0A> =0A> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aaron Wood = wrote:=0A>>=0A>> The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT fo= rums) that went out had=0A>> this chip, the J4105 as the fastest. Able to = do a gigabit with cake (nearly able=0A>> to do it in both directions).=0A>>= =0A>> I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going wit= h as my edge=0A>> router.=0A>>=0A>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Tah= t wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>> Historically I've found the "Cel= eron" chips rather weak, but it's just=0A>>> a brand. I haven't the foggies= t idea how well this variant will=0A>>> perform.=0A>>>=0A>>> The intel ethe= rnet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's=0A>>> been my hope tha= t the 211 variant with the timed networking support=0A>>> would show up in = the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,=0A>>> (the apu2s aren't u= sing that version) but I cannot for the life of me=0A>>> remember the right= keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature=0A>>> lets you program = when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of=0A>>> a whole new ball= game when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been=0A>>> an aqm designed = for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the=0A>>> sent timestamp.= =0A>>>=0A>>> All the other features look rather nice on this board.=0A>>>= =0A>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed w= rote:=0A>>> >=0A>>> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, thi= s company does rather=0A>>> neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (= ReSpeaker) is really useful.=0A>>> What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWR= T for Intel 9560 capabilities=0A>>> regarding AQM?=0A>>> >=0A>>> > On Satur= day, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" said:=0A>>> >= =0A>>> > > _______________________________________________=0A>>> > > Cake m= ailing list=0A>>> > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A>>> > > https://lists.bu= fferbloat.net/listinfo/cake=0A>>> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X= 86J4105800-p-4445.html=0A>>> > >=0A>>> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 = GHz x64=0A>>> > > 8GB Ram=0A>>> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers=0A>= >> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset=0A>>> > > intel b= uilt-in graphics=0A>>> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers= =0A>>> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters=0A>>> > > <$200=0A>>> > >=0A>>> >=0A>>> >= =0A>>> > _______________________________________________=0A>>> > Bloat mail= ing list=0A>>> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net=0A>>> > https://lists.bufferbl= oat.net/listinfo/bloat=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>> --=0A>>> Make Music, Not War= =0A>>>=0A>>> Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A>>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC=0A>>> http://www.tekli= bre.com=0A>>> Tel: 1-831-435-0729=0A>>=0A>> --=0A>> - Sent from my iPhone.= =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> --=0A> Make Music, Not War=0A> =0A> Dave T=C3=A4ht=0A> = CTO, TekLibre, LLC=0A> http://www.teklibre.com=0A> Tel: 1-831-435-0729=0A> = =0A