From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BFAE3B29D for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34E95C01F5; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap1 ([10.202.2.51]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:07:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=althea.net; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to:cc :subject:content-type; s=fm3; bh=UJm5Zj+QqZdMYsP7dWR2BdotoXRCC// Spn6Fg2nnLSQ=; b=Cr4UHe/EGEgp3Kq6viFNCF+iwudNPtjPygshyS0A5hiixye R845O9CXB0mPmXbTwSHSad/DPXnVJMx5Xba5HbJoe8FBueBE7C8RbBuQRDlltoMr 618z7vQlFSccKYgXIJ2MPIPKACVQng9YQo1iEffc+scl5GRFNLf3YktCCqBSUFl9 9I5eJaSZi+jv7dwSirS8EjgqUjT5+vbOahmC/fLqUTRxBhwGfvoyvgeaUihseBLA e1PC622IK5/JL5bS+7DEgOeBTMn1HXmI3OTSNE1kqAv70nNSBIqRLmddSG0ADTWM oZdwIMxKNg72Q9h8c3ZcRdX2VKsGIMNRqH8CY2w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=UJm5Zj +QqZdMYsP7dWR2BdotoXRCC//Spn6Fg2nnLSQ=; b=vK6v+XIpGZJzLiOQKkoZls POt5xMFmwK+7HTU84XaMvqlL54o+dfMwrQsABs3KcfQHPCeSPxPIVpdaH4wppIOu Yvs1McAFEs0On/hPH3jPiTHVn+AvJno6HcyDRtr4mKyVy4u9nkac6vErnhiXlmzE uFEGHRvR5fn0JbjsDYHLJwbxvXkFKo5EHMz9avB/VVv7F/oExejOjNNfldnYyU5C 7TuCsFxZ6n9pWfdgANms4/5wjtxkiKq9Lh4oMhcwsfFs8D5ckYsjlxVlplagVj3Q MiaAJxtI5ArFHYG8kamq1Rf7sb+6qBemNv4e8pEBMgtc8ONvTPrwAZyatEIqmTWQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrgeeigdduiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtsehttdertderredtnecuhfhrohhmpedflfhushht ihhnucfmihhlphgrthhrihgtkhdfuceojhhushhtihhnsegrlhhthhgvrgdrnhgvtheqne cuffhomhgrihhnpehophgvnhifrhhtrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptden ucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhushhtihhnsegrlhhthhgvrgdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 55865C200A7; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:07:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-dev0-351-g9981f4f-fmstable-20200421v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <189eb1a9-ea02-452b-92f3-8005f97eb612@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <75FEC2D9-BFC8-4FA2-A972-D11A823C5528@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:06:52 -0400 From: "Justin Kilpatrick" To: "Dave Taht" Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cake] Advantages to tightly tuning latency X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:07:13 -0000 On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > It has always been my dream, that at least for outbound, there would > be sufficient backpressure from the driver > to not have to shape at all, or monitor the link. We have that now in > BQL and AQL. free.fr's dsl driver "does the right thing" - no other > dsl driver does. Nor usb network devices. I hope more folk roll up > their sleeves and test the ath10k some, it's looking lovely from here. > > https://forum.openwrt.org/t/aql-and-the-ath10k-is-lovely/ > > next up either the new mediatek chip or intel.. I'm curious if you have any opinions about the WiFi stacks for the Marvel Armada and Qualcomm IPQ40xx. Any trees I should be barking up for better performance? We have had some complaints in higher interference areas... These devices have the best WireGuard performance per dollar for Althea's use case so we're deploying them pretty heavily. -- Justin Kilpatrick justin@althea.net