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From: Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake upstream Planning
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 19:40:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1BED94C0-BF21-44BE-A0B0-22224C24C160@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shde2nj7.fsf@nemesis.taht.net>

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
> 
> Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com <mailto:peteheist@gmail.com>> writes:
> 
>>>>   On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> writes:
>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/ffainelli/bqlmon was a tool for looking at bql more
>>> directly.
>>> 
>>> I had forked it for some reason or another:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/dtaht/bqlmon
>> 
>> Nice, that does work for me. It’s interesting that there are four queues for the
>> igb driver, 00 - 03, and when I try an rrul_be_nflows test, not all four queues
>> are necessarily used. Once I get >= 8 flows in each direction they usually are
>> though. I suppose this is the driver deciding when to start using another queue
>> or not.
> 
> Usually it is selected via a hash. In more than a few cases, however,
> the designer of the hardware intended it as a strict priority queue. In
> other cases, it's based on the CPU.
> 
> In all cases such a limited number of queues tends to cause oddities.
> 
> I think it was the mvneta (?) that had the strict priority queue idea baked
> into it, which we ended up disabling entirely and going with just one
> hardware queue.

I noticed when I went to buy the APU2 that the two lower-end models (apu2c2 and apu2c0) have I211 NICs instead of a I210. The I211 is a “value part” that among other things has 2 tx and rx queues per port instead of 4. I wasn’t sure of the real effect of this when I purchased them, but for an extra few bucks the I210 seemed worth it. Table 1-6 on page 13:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/i210-ethernet-controller-datasheet.pdf

>> Cake does seem to visibly reduce the size of the queues.
> 
> I generally observe that TSO/GRO/etc tends to make BQL's queues 3-5
> times larger than they are without those offloads - no way to fix it,
> short of doing what cake does to peel those apart.

A real nicety of Cake that the world should benefit from.

>> For whatever
>> terminal/ncurses weirdness reason though, the bar graphs may be sometimes
>> blowing off the top of my 45 row screen, but it doesn’t entirely ruin the
>> experience.
> 
> Maybe that was why I forked it?

Looks like you forked it to fix a multi-queue problem. I forked your fork to add a scaling parameter to fix the bar height. -s 4096 works well for me.


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Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1019.1510802012.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-16  9:14 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-16 16:31   ` Dave Taht
2017-11-16 18:40     ` Pete Heist [this message]
2017-11-16 19:13       ` Dave Taht
     [not found] <mailman.1013.1510778675.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-16  9:50 ` Pete Heist
     [not found] <mailman.7.1510506001.13084.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-14  9:51 ` [Cake] Donation Pete Heist
2017-11-14 20:10   ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 14:41     ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 19:44       ` [Cake] Cake upstream Planning Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:04         ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:44           ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 20:49             ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:06         ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 20:19           ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:28             ` Nils Andreas Svee
2017-11-15 20:58               ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 22:40                 ` Nils Andreas Svee
2017-11-16  8:41                   ` Pete Heist

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