From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic310-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic310-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.186.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B37B33B29E for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:55:01 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1510347301; bh=CAN/H7KM4XwHKiqG0+k5uwmw9YWvYzN1XJ5oJf693KE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=WCzbfuaRtbVTDoPRLbXr+KM4xlMx/wBLgQHPIU1K/nRlNEnf6sLSM+mqb4bNtztTDf8Ne6FMAwKocgn9mmHoClLs2AV7CndNc/ncsBRRWO88P2pxGgBeYqaLKFVRA7fbUTy3NZUz48IE32UwIShe7cw2/+AT+N7i4/XlVjcsoSrnAIKg3j2IySdXsxIgKK9/02dHMoUuz6hZEo7qGWEzTRfayFfukf5Ovl/PkpkYoIC+W94Oj8kxng8ddZwix8Sg58nG5GTSU2l9WYF3GUVUqtjDdn8tPCJSubf6+Vn/anW2UIEUMgFdGaDcMcRDtVS8OGE1z/RUoKO/VQGqn8eLDA== X-YMail-OSG: 15PtFRQVM1kPrGMiO.Tm1VTKzmAoBCiH4QEcwIOl9nAZInhVMOIAVvKptGpUR2T Y2YfSveEgJzc.YVRqGSQqxf5xHIxylup6QrWiqUykpmgrPiAs3MIKo2zfpMbDh2x4rP999Gv55yq mGc9FbKn.x.Ix7MG0PTe.kp9xV7.I6.gBjLRic7BVuMTtVIgX6_TDzK3Ng3ZQypgalmshqbhJ.di NmYCl6sGs9XP5eKnJa5b6XZwn6PrG2tzhRUXeBkG4_ZlUQMhjZDjC0vszet_EtuR_srEFhwuTiT9 P.eGPlej6a30PpHFTbeDxGpFA5x6w4F5dgJcIEHJa1_5AW6g.HfT7fn0ZBboHy7vM0btQxzD_DSR tBSHmN5eVxOg05vGWSOw0RmgCEt7MxsZR5JW2MR7nzdtHoFiIBvhJHRUXW8a51zbogzldvEFp1IU CGnkoOLePDPfyNjqp_TjVxwulS0J13LuOy5DBwEgTzOm.cGlbMfiZeTiobG8F6MLfbxywYU0LMzM E6aDA5zRzxIQnMS3miGVNfG8Q_IsnlNH8tyFMNY8o0MELI8Qy Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:55:01 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Nov 2017 20:54:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 43705.36062.bm@smtp201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 15PtFRQVM1kPrGMiO.Tm1VTKzmAoBCiH4QEcwIOl9nAZInh VMOIAVvKptGpUR2TY2YfSveEgJzc.YVRqGSQqxf5xHIxylup6QrWiqUykpmg rPiAs3MIKo2zfpMbDh2x4rP999Gv55yqmGc9FbKn.x.Ix7MG0PTe.kp9xV7. I6.gBjLRic7BVuMTtVIgX6_TDzK3Ng3ZQypgalmshqbhJ.diNmYCl6sGs9XP 5eKnJa5b6XZwn6PrG2tzhRUXeBkG4_ZlUQMhjZDjC0vszet_EtuR_srEFhwu TiT9P.eGPlej6a30PpHFTbeDxGpFA5x6w4F5dgJcIEHJa1_5AW6g.HfT7fn0 ZBboHy7vM0btQxzD_DSRtBSHmN5eVxOg05vGWSOw0RmgCEt7MxsZR5JW2MR7 nzdtHoFiIBvhJHRUXW8a51zbogzldvEFp1IUCGnkoOLePDPfyNjqp_TjVxwu lS0J13LuOy5DBwEgTzOm.cGlbMfiZeTiobG8F6MLfbxywYU0LMzME6aDA5zR zxIQnMS3miGVNfG8Q_IsnlNH8tyFMNY8o0MELI8Qy X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6sUo5IiswBDB2TZm6JKJ6DaI.Rsz4O0- Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <87po92aku1.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87efph4q0y.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87vaihkgr9.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> From: George Amanakis Message-ID: <1a3109ef-bf1a-1d00-8988-14721d2aaa5e@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:54:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87vaihkgr9.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:55:01 -0000 Indeed. Also interplanetary essentially omits cake_advance_shaper for dropped packets (since cobalt never drops that way), almost disabling ingress mode. Which leads to other hosts having pings to WAN > 500ms when one of them is using many flows. What I think is happening in ingress mode is that codel starts dropping packets in many flows simultaneously. Each time this happens, q->time_next_packet is advanced, eventually dis-proportionally to the actual rate, and this leads to the actual download rate being lower than set. I am a big fan of ingress mode, just if we could correct this behaviour... On 11/10/2017 3:42 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > Interplanetary basically disables codel for most applications. > >> On 11/1/2017 6:01 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >>> Awesome. thx. I will try to make time to look at these over the weekend. > I still haven't had that weekend. >