From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C3063B2A3 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 16:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id w64so37093199wma.0 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:from:to:references:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mTwd9gtcV3LQLP32lk+lQ1VqcivD4bb/z7d1OYMhSt4=; b=vhrOCF++R6OMPXGYyOmYMVzwHjAU9vLgJ3bKLeFjNEONHO4e/wHjZxoj1AiALF4f48 2vD7kzsGKvPONPuxHVaGa2ghVzZQDlpLnNqDAZbkxipdq174aKKdxGNXOZgJCqP5/GO8 Flx6Y4AWLnQqqfIQVYSnjsLWogZj791NNM2D1PVquxNbYEY0nBtkdFw/AaVl78zuGisv ae7+fB208yQeVBk0FMB/rM4uEtCk3JGOprF6AWc5y+B9VVWCTClAtbT81DbQ0Oyj262d m7BXIdJKge3NRsDwB+8SZsI3OVrR5AwayYjmFVjJb1J+02aiVbPjTr+Rdjcji4WLGG5F JrRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:to:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mTwd9gtcV3LQLP32lk+lQ1VqcivD4bb/z7d1OYMhSt4=; b=jkkvFQml86vlAhFgMAM5wYBaR20eo1n4PsQGaVP41OUTFfL0MT2tzEXJzst2oqUStd dIEJIYiNw/SwEFmpPu3LRS1D6CO83NOMGlmS8RezelNIGrvQZJ3gpITROkWfQWuuh8M9 xqPJxG4QxBi9Lj9BQsJesL2WHpFj2YgLmoG07ckhYmJLJVKH2YEnHX/J5hAhlahGS6Ml wvf6PUptI0e895HphI1DLawVKzshGV6ROjqu4AhJllgskZS/i+s7bcx7t+QRisVXkGh1 W1pNFioaAqA0fc6OQOAZmdSo41NHKTOHMwAp463fILK0UDxAmQXVh2Vx85/ukFIXFAQo KeOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5mN2xg3j178zqGcH0amXtHMunMxX3g094O5UcqSTigl9DUHIZv tRXez/LPln00MqfG X-Received: by 10.28.109.3 with SMTP id i3mr3936602wmc.121.1492892678953; Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (185.182.7.51.dyn.plus.net. [51.7.182.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c139sm3326191wmd.11.2017.04.22.13.24.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:24:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Furniss To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <05C0B0C7-4337-4115-AC6B-DA81392FCB34@gmail.com> <22E633CF-5EE0-4B0F-89A8-B790E730FB6C@gmx.de> <37ea1abc-8c08-784c-0873-ed6df8d089ca@gmail.com> <8ab8a7e3-3946-a555-ef76-e0acfc16eda8@gmail.com> <199f5c68-bdd9-255b-2ed3-27a855b16d3d@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2016b96a-9f3a-d634-79ec-6061a8c0e07e@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:24:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199f5c68-bdd9-255b-2ed3-27a855b16d3d@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Cake] Getting Cake to work better with Steam and similar applications X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:24:40 -0000 Andy Furniss wrote: >>>>>> So please add “atm overhead 32" to cake on eth0 or “atm >>>>>> overhead 40” to cake instances on pppoe (these packets do >>>>>> not have the PPPoE header added yet and hence appear 8 >>>>>> bytes to small). Ugh, so I totally missed that Dendari was already using the raw parameter and will still need to when adding "atm" (on pppoe, but not on eth0) AFAICT. He must be using different cake/tc from me that doesn't print out the overhead XX via-ethernet info.