From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic306-19.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (sonic306-19.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com [106.10.241.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10BFB3CB36 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:41:01 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s2048; t=1524314459; bh=58JwGTLuQMT1xRLkYJ3BJZWBOhaDbpn2Vz6VUJVyvlA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=AWdFOS8QW9AEjRzUG3hcNxVxopPXwGAmgLyBboDPxkd2xhzyf53LFCc9RDB73I4ZlIwi2TLUV9vjiiqZqwArh/5XKhRtI2ER6kbQb+qKVCJIHvs4ciwVXTwmqvzw8KO83BCgvv3i3Pxsq47CSdV9CoCSg6wOa7YVlW/SV4HC5xGNB5GeAQTttIO0yZpYJPYqU9wx85WUJIYg3uIf+eJq4UaY/X1iZLOONnFBVQUdPYNEbh5/4w6HdY9WT5jBLEMo6rbRWaj1rNJO8Fzvj0/bo1Uh2+xc9iKv8JqgoqOAcS2W4xyrSoKLPdlaqHDgCsnds4pLGVm0r6Gq/OCVbUEiXA== X-YMail-OSG: v65y7_IVM1kHzTDphzFmHWX0KOtd1Jzpu9a47b1g9cwQDaIANfQNFwwlm405.wk 67zlHBHTy_Q4rUU5gTArobzT5hALtyECXlfhobTgk8__T4SPFQYbMQ0_GcApoY85E_CGQEFeE0kC VQTbvE82Zr75Za6vDyfEZIjC_Aq1yMULazNxRPLaP7C9_9sui1UGsWKgALJkarHZ.F534pNl7Wmi jHIVbVhg7UYGpmI6umdRd.d2h9oHH8YHS4KueYgCS6e4kYqZAjikwf9Ipyu9L.XEB_6GYqr3L8M4 Eg3Q_tnCofL1xvpv6xo1pi4DTDZjFdvpnXYpDz73QcwE6bj74NEQbYK2bL6Qczn2.46gmPXznTa6 your2oqJ9oYf_2J0AAkekAIS5yEvjxm6daV0jgqxNdKG8UPM6rvJC11bTKY5w9dnxsaJYoJt2zIz fOGvgRLJBziAlxixzl00UpbSCK0BsfIo4gt4QQiWMrnhbo4WRkGlTV3aiK1bc5sJwzO1Kv93W6eu VV0c2Ptv48MHdBV3ZCr.nNMcsN5515xCk9PMnqKO9wV6CC7eM Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:40:59 +0000 Received: from PPPa4000.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp (EHLO raspberrypi) ([59.157.102.206]) by smtp418.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b02df1b3131bdd472ed6b67d34bfc2df for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 21:40:48 +0900 From: Y To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cake] Diffserv LLT mode Message-ID: <20180421214016.0c18ae9f@raspberrypi> In-Reply-To: References: <87k1t38d2q.fsf@toke.dk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:41:02 -0000 Hi. mine stat doen't inclued more. sad. yutaka pi@raspberrypi:~ $ tc -s -d qdisc qdisc noqueue 0: dev lo root refcnt 2=20 Sent 0 bytes 0 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)=20 backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 qdisc cake 8017: dev eth0 root refcnt 2 bandwidth 810Kbit diffserv3 srchost rtt 100.0ms raw atm overhead -4 Sent 42114643 bytes 197572 pkt (dropped 232, overlimits 73726 requeues 0) backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 qdisc ingress ffff: dev eth0 parent ffff:fff1 ----------------=20 Sent 192984793 bytes 176545 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)=20 backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 qdisc cake 8016: dev ifb0 root refcnt 2 bandwidth 11500Kbit diffserv3 dsthost rtt 100.0ms raw atm overhead -4 Sent 195434409 bytes 176530 pkt (dropped 14, overlimits 107096 requeues 0) backlog 0b 0p requeues 0 On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 10:44:19 +0200 Pete Heist wrote: > > On Apr 19, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen > > wrote: > >=20 > > Is anyone actually using the LLT diffserv setting? =20 >=20 > I re-tested diffserv-llt quickly using the current head of cake and > tc-adv and am confused by something: >=20 > http://drhleny.cz/bufferbloat/cake/round5/diffserv_rrul_eg_cake_ds-llt_50= mbit/index.html >=20 > When I look at the qdisc stats for cake, there are 5 tins: Low Loss, > Best Effort, Low Delay, Bulk and Net Control. Shouldn=E2=80=99t the Low D= elay > tin have its target and interval reduced to something below 5ms and > 100ms? And the bulk tin has a target and interval of 5.8ms and > 100.8ms(?) >=20 > In short, I forget how diffserv-llt was supposed to work, regardless > of whether or not it=E2=80=99s on the chopping block. No need for a histo= ry > lesson if it will be removed=E2=80=A6 :) >=20 > Improved intra-flow latency could be useful for HTTP/2 or other > things, but I don=E2=80=99t see how the current llt mode helps most ordin= ary > people with that, when it would only apply to flows with certain > diffserv markings, and doesn=E2=80=99t seem to adjust the target and inte= rval > anyway=E2=80=A6 _______________________________________________ Cake mail= ing > list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake