From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 622A23B29D; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D67390FF; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uwl994W5HhWA; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DD390FD; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A9AC; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Dave Taht cc: David Lang , Cake List , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <10241.1618866642@localhost> <21914.1618927798@localhost> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:03:30 -0400 Message-ID: <22035.1618934610@localhost> Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat] starlink testing X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 16:03:31 -0000 Dave Taht wrote: > As much as I dislike the cgnat I don't see how starlink had any other > choice, and the layer below that is hopefully capable of carrying > ipv6 well. IPv6 first, with NAT64 would have been significantly better and easier.