Cake - FQ_codel the next generation
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Andy Furniss <adf.lists@gmail.com>
To: Dendari Marini <dendari92@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Getting Cake to work better with Steam and similar applications
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:32:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27355009-9a16-10dd-3925-0420008a1bf1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCX+3M4vJsyb+ZAmu4YGyx0FjOdTO-Ur-m=BOx-FsgjnOGfuA@mail.gmail.com>

Dendari Marini wrote:
> On 25 April 2017 at 21:10, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You may see some improvement from wholesale reducing the inbound 
>> bandwidth, to say 10Mbit.  This is especially true given the high
>> asymmetry of your connection, which might require dropped acks
>> upstream to keep filled downstream - and dropped acks will tend to
>> increase burstiness of sending on unpaced senders.
>> 
>> You should also try to ensure ECN is fully enabled on your LAN
>> hosts, especially the ones running Steam.  This will help to
>> reduce retransmissions and loss-recovery cycles.
>> 
>> - Jonathan Morton
>> 
>> 
> Well, the only improvement I've seen when limiting the bandwidth with
> Steam has been at lower than 1Mbps, don't think I want to go that
> far. In all honesty I wouldn't limit it to 10Mbit either, with the
> overhead it means half of my total bandwidth, not a trade-off I'm
> willing to do.

That is strange, if you are running the ping tests from the same PC
maybe there is something strange going on with windows.

> 
> Still, the issue is real and it seems Steam is the only application I
> can reproduce it. I've seen reports about Battle.net and Windows
> Updates doing the same thing (because they should open multiple
> concurrent connections), but I can't reproduce it, at least not in
> the way Steam does.
> 
> Anyway I'm gonna take a "pause" from all of this, I've wasted the
> last three weeks ago just for trying resolving it but unfortunately
> still nothing. Thanks all for your help, if there's any news I'll
> report it here.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-20 13:39 Dendari Marini
2017-04-20 13:43 ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-20 15:23   ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-20 15:32     ` Jonathan Morton
2017-04-20 16:05       ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-20 17:12         ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-20 17:36         ` Jonathan Morton
2017-04-20 18:35         ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-20 18:36         ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-21  8:34           ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-21 13:25             ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-21 13:27             ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-22  8:25               ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-22  9:36                 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-04-22 12:50                   ` xnoreq
2017-04-22 13:41                   ` Tristan Seligmann
2017-04-22 13:51                   ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 14:03                     ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 16:38                       ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 16:45                         ` Dave Taht
2017-04-22 17:00                           ` Tristan Seligmann
2017-04-22 20:24                         ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 16:47                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-22 21:56                     ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-22 22:15                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-23 12:32                         ` David Lang
2017-04-24  7:55                           ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-24  8:41                             ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-24 11:34                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-24 12:08                                 ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-24 12:35                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-24 13:49                                     ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-24 15:42                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-24 17:32                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-25 10:26                               ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 11:24                                 ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-25 12:58                                   ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 18:22                                     ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-25 19:10                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2017-04-25 20:44                                         ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-25 21:32                                           ` Andy Furniss [this message]
2017-04-25 22:33                                           ` Benjamin Cronce
2017-04-28 15:37                                             ` Dendari Marini
2017-04-29 15:11                                               ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-29 17:30                                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-04-29 18:29                                                   ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-30  0:05                                                     ` Andy Furniss
2017-05-01  5:50                                                       ` Jonathan Morton
2017-05-01 11:32                                               ` Andy Furniss
2017-05-01 12:08                                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-05-01 13:03                                                   ` Andy Furniss
2017-05-01 13:11                                                     ` Jonathan Morton
2017-05-01 14:46                                                       ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 21:06                                         ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 21:16                                           ` Neil Shepperd
2017-04-25 21:37                                             ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 21:43                                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-25 22:06                                       ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 22:29                                         ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-25 22:32                                           ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 22:35                       ` Andy Furniss
2017-04-22 14:12                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-04-20 18:16     ` Sebastian Moeller

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/postorius/lists/cake.lists.bufferbloat.net/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=27355009-9a16-10dd-3925-0420008a1bf1@gmail.com \
    --to=adf.lists@gmail.com \
    --cc=cake@lists.bufferbloat.net \
    --cc=chromatix99@gmail.com \
    --cc=dendari92@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox