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From: Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [Bloat]  dslreports is no longer free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 10:08:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de>

What's the bufferbloat verdict on https://speed.cloudflare.com/ ?

Mat

> On 1 May 2020, at 20:48, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> well, it was a free service and it lasted a long time. I want to raise a toast to Justin and convey my sincere thanks for years of investing into the "good" of the internet. 
> 
> Now, the question is which test is going to be the rightful successor? 
> 
> Short of running netperf/irtt/iper2/iperf3 on a hosted server, I see lots of potential but none of the tests are really there yet (grievances in now particular order):
> 
> OOKLA: speedtest.net.
> 	Pros: ubiquitious, allows selection of single flow versus multi-flow test, allows server selection
> 	Cons: only IPv4, only static unloaded RTT measurement, no control over measurement duration
> 	BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete, maybe usable as load generator
> 
> 
> NETFLIX: fast.com.
> 	Pros: allows selection of upload testing, supposedly decent back-end, duration configurable
> 		allows unloaded, loaded download and loaded upload RTT measurements (but reports sinlge numbers for loaded and unloaded RTT, that are not the max)
> 	Cons: RTT report as two numbers one for the loaded and one for unloaded RTT, time-course of RTTs missing
> 	BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete, but oh, so close...
> 
> 
> NPERF: nperf.com
> 	Pros: allows server selection, RTT measurement and report as time course, also reports average rates and static RTT/jitter for Up- and Download
> 	Cons: RTT measurement for unloaded only, reported RTT static only , no control over measurement duration
> 	BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete,
> 
> 
> THINKBROADBAND: www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest
> 	Pros: IPv6, reports coarse RTT time courses for all three measurement phases
> 	Cons: only static unloaded RTT report in final results, time courses only visible immediately after testing, no control over measurement duration
> 	BUFFERBLOAT verdict: a bit coarse, might work for users within a reasonable distance to the UK for acute de-bloating sessions (history reporting is bad though)
> 
> 
> honorable mentioning:
> 	BREITBANDMESSUNG: breitbandmessung.de
> 	Pros: query of contracted internet access speed before measurement, with a scheduler that will only start a test when the backend has sufficient capacity to saturate the user-supplied contracted rates, IPv6 (happy-eyeballs)
> 	Cons: only static unloaded RTT measurement, no control over measurement duration
> 	BUFFERBLOAT verdict: unsuitable, exceot as load generator, but the bandwidth reservation feature is quite nice.
> 
> Best Regards
> 	Sebastian
> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2020, at 18:44, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/gbd6g0/dsl_reports_speed_test_no_longer_free/
>> 
>> They ran out of bandwidth.
>> 
>> Message to users here:
>> 
>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Make Music, Not War
>> 
>> Dave Täht
>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-27  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-01 16:44 [Cake] " Dave Taht
2020-05-01 19:34 ` [Cake] [Bloat] " Kenneth Porter
2020-05-01 19:54   ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-05-01 19:48 ` [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller
2020-05-01 20:09   ` [Bloat] " Sergey Fedorov
2020-05-01 21:11     ` [Cake] [Bloat] " Sebastian Moeller
2020-05-01 21:37       ` [Bloat] [Cake] " Sergey Fedorov
     [not found]       ` <mailman.191.1588369068.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-05-01 23:59         ` [Cake] [Bloat] " Michael Richardson
     [not found]   ` <mailman.170.1588363787.24343.bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-05-01 22:07     ` Michael Richardson
2020-05-01 23:35       ` [Bloat] [Cake] " Sergey Fedorov
2020-05-02  1:14       ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] " Jannie Hanekom
2020-05-02 16:37         ` Benjamin Cronce
2020-05-02 16:52           ` Dave Taht
2020-05-02 17:38             ` David P. Reed
2020-05-02 19:00               ` Sergey Fedorov
2020-05-02 23:23                 ` David P. Reed
2020-05-03 15:31                 ` [Cake] fast.com quality David P. Reed
2020-05-03 15:37                   ` Dave Taht
2020-05-02 20:19               ` [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] dslreports is no longer free Sebastian Moeller
2020-05-27  9:08   ` Matthew Ford [this message]
2020-05-27  9:28     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-05-27  9:32     ` [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller

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