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Mat > On 1 May 2020, at 20:48, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >=20 > Hi Dave, >=20 > well, it was a free service and it lasted a long time. I want to raise a = toast to Justin and convey my sincere thanks for years of investing into th= e "good" of the internet.=20 >=20 > Now, the question is which test is going to be the rightful successor?=20 >=20 > Short of running netperf/irtt/iper2/iperf3 on a hosted server, I see lots= of potential but none of the tests are really there yet (grievances in now= particular order): >=20 > OOKLA: speedtest.net. > Pros: ubiquitious, allows selection of single flow versus multi-flow tes= t, allows server selection > Cons: only IPv4, only static unloaded RTT measurement, no control over m= easurement duration > BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete, maybe usable as load generator >=20 >=20 > NETFLIX: fast.com. > Pros: allows selection of upload testing, supposedly decent back-end, du= ration configurable > allows unloaded, loaded download and loaded upload RTT measurements (bu= t reports sinlge numbers for loaded and unloaded RTT, that are not the max) > Cons: RTT report as two numbers one for the loaded and one for unloaded = RTT, time-course of RTTs missing > BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete, but oh, so close... >=20 >=20 > NPERF: nperf.com > Pros: allows server selection, RTT measurement and report as time course= , also reports average rates and static RTT/jitter for Up- and Download > Cons: RTT measurement for unloaded only, reported RTT static only , no c= ontrol over measurement duration > BUFFERBLOAT verdict: incomplete, >=20 >=20 > THINKBROADBAND: www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest > Pros: IPv6, reports coarse RTT time courses for all three measurement ph= ases > Cons: only static unloaded RTT report in final results, time courses onl= y visible immediately after testing, no control over measurement duration > BUFFERBLOAT verdict: a bit coarse, might work for users within a reasona= ble distance to the UK for acute de-bloating sessions (history reporting is= bad though) >=20 >=20 > honorable mentioning: > BREITBANDMESSUNG: breitbandmessung.de > Pros: query of contracted internet access speed before measurement, with= a scheduler that will only start a test when the backend has sufficient ca= pacity to saturate the user-supplied contracted rates, IPv6 (happy-eyeballs= ) > Cons: only static unloaded RTT measurement, no control over measurement = duration > BUFFERBLOAT verdict: unsuitable, exceot as load generator, but the bandw= idth reservation feature is quite nice. >=20 > Best Regards > Sebastian >=20 >=20 >> On May 1, 2020, at 18:44, Dave Taht wrote: >>=20 >> https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/gbd6g0/dsl_reports_spee= d_test_no_longer_free/ >>=20 >> They ran out of bandwidth. >>=20 >> Message to users here: >>=20 >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Make Music, Not War >>=20 >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC >> http://www.teklibre.com >> Tel: 1-831-435-0729 >> _______________________________________________ >> Cake mailing list >> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat