From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x22a.google.com (mail-wr0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 865E43B2A4 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 14:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id a41so13143287wra.6 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:26:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=3rjAtyJ2F45AX5ffc7SKubQcpOwdfsJU9APUYtImwFU=; b=kOKbZuCSTP3eAtWQ6ZCk+LJrJZxiUv541f7AjlTEItdvE5/cn7ybDWwOx++Gm8GIF5 j9RwtlgfcBPcnpxNXTX/yRIvd9ii3jvTdkkX4+JORrsuM7AYj4d2vGqVAT1MRTn+2XZw x5VO2HSZ753AWq4+RHkWS6lxu6uJNXILyxNC3KpM9fx3X9LKbo930fhQSRTeB/Vfyhax eQNVsDxWxAlan8XJwMIhBp2eSTS1r6LjePx1QsNeBM0wph/v1/vmMIVcFAMnzAwYNgOE uJ/HDnNjwLXBsKkBm2sazGWERfZRSWG8+gbtzU0cynQobIvBUClr+igb0qpRi1tkxeZt BPrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=3rjAtyJ2F45AX5ffc7SKubQcpOwdfsJU9APUYtImwFU=; b=C8Q/8TR6RI//TTYDU+HkvnFsHNCz1JdufibhNf+Iul41GlqXuuN/9jVhzntaYbwt4t Qiaw/YKedvLCL/rPUSEHbq4ZdZN5gXKbUSRQhAd7pf7MB0ZSg8HHwfjxvKvgB1d52HGf u+d1+Q1ChRRdPKLgAxviQmiHI+rFjyLxEIzT/kk0O7K+MTIzW8o59If8Kwr6OQAF8hOY SjLIW+QTXWT5P/qyY2VdKacdGK3gHIf6eavSbZVAemGSwuxMQSCT992AxCZislcqevSX ha3bnNke+CoyXEVIximpELFtCFSynwR0HZUbV9YAk5iNGOHFDmhDiX1YmpDv/3SeKzPw V9aw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5R6ZBH6PDLtBuUVka+/xQBO/FG56huidJXJApbLlGy/MBcJnM8 wfVWTaW7cTrHvL2RTNFilX8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbwDmaelIYz0rZQIu6tdRwDa6UReo0u0Xf4eUlMO1bPwm1UD2vY/+w13TkZnnQ3crNI6fNZxA== X-Received: by 10.223.175.223 with SMTP id y31mr10916554wrd.106.1512329210368; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.72.0.130] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.99.119.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u33sm10750758wrf.42.2017.12.03.11.26.49 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:26:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A485608A-ECC8-45B3-A57E-FC9394DC3737" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 20:26:48 +0100 Cc: Cake List Message-Id: <2FBCB733-0125-4A2E-BBC5-385E25759F24@gmail.com> References: <94A0F8E1-0C3C-4E55-804B-DCD98647BB14@gmail.com> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] new 12 core box X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:26:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A485608A-ECC8-45B3-A57E-FC9394DC3737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Dave Taht > wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Pete Heist = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I like the name. =E2=80=9Cdornierdox=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=80=99t have = the same smooth ring: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_X (Powerplant: 12=C3=97 = Curtiss >>> Conqueror water-cooled V12) >>=20 >> Heh. I had not heard of that plane. Ceiling, 500 feet. >=20 > "As a result of its size, passengers were asked to crowd together on > one side or the other to help make turns. " >=20 > very apt analogy for these mailing lists! Indeed. "A successor, the Do-20, was envisioned by Dornier, but never = advanced beyond the design study stage.=E2=80=9D Really? I=E2=80=99m shocked. >>> Who decides to build that? >> Howard Hughes? >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_H-4_Hercules = Another behemoth... >>> I still think a box like that will be useful for veth testing. >>=20 >> I put it through some paces last night, trying 4Gbit workloads. >>=20 >>>=20 >>> I=E2=80=99ve been really happy with the 2x APU2 you suggested, for = their four cores >>> and silence. I even think 2-3 more of them could be useful for = different >>> testing topologies as we discussed. >>=20 >> I like them a lot, too. We have to come up with a test that uses up 3 >> ethernet ports... I have just such a test planned, as a middlebox for poor-man=E2=80=99s = full-duplex p2p WiFi. One port in, one for egress and one for ingress, = same on the other end of the link. I tried it last year with 2xAPUv1 but = one link was still a cable because I didn=E2=80=99t have four NSM5s, so = the results looked artificially good. Now I have them, so it=E2=80=99s = just a matter of setting it up again...= --Apple-Mail=_A485608A-ECC8-45B3-A57E-FC9394DC3737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Dec 3, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= wrote:

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Dave Taht = <dave.taht@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Sun, = Dec 3, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com>= wrote:
I like the name. = =E2=80=9Cdornierdox=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=80=99t have the same smooth = ring:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_X (Powerplant: = 12=C3=97 Curtiss
Conqueror water-cooled V12)

Heh. I had not heard of that = plane. Ceiling, 500 feet.

"As a result of its = size, passengers were asked to crowd together on
one side or the = other to help make turns. "

very apt analogy for these mailing = lists!

Indeed. "A = successor, the Do-20, was envisioned by Dornier, but never advanced = beyond the design study stage.=E2=80=9D

Really? I=E2=80=99m shocked.

Who decides to build = that?
Howard Hughes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hughes_H-4_Hercules

Another behemoth...

I still think a box like that will be useful for veth = testing.

I put it through some = paces last night, trying 4Gbit workloads.


I=E2=80=99v= e been really happy with the 2x APU2 you suggested, for their four = cores
and silence. I even think 2-3 more of them could be = useful for different
testing topologies as we = discussed.

I like them a lot, = too. We have to come up with a test that uses up 3
ethernet = ports...

I have just such a test planned, as a = middlebox for poor-man=E2=80=99s full-duplex p2p WiFi. One port in, one = for egress and one for ingress, same on the other end of the link. I = tried it last year with 2xAPUv1 but one link was still a cable because I = didn=E2=80=99t have four NSM5s, so the results looked artificially good. = Now I have them, so it=E2=80=99s just a matter of setting it up = again...
= --Apple-Mail=_A485608A-ECC8-45B3-A57E-FC9394DC3737--