From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04B893B29E for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 07:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id v186so9386202wma.2 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:47:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=E2jDpiGYv+DuowAUZ+GT5nVApT1vUwjHUZEcsVuQVwc=; b=Z8xCgF9BLhIyLqh/sC+yA+GNKwCdgWQcMIyO3i/AYP4EoScXTvRDlsRX4s13cCDt6t JSPZI4prhQHaGbHVdTIyYzqOkKboGWHwdD8lKKy4OC1e8H0ggTlk5rUj/cDKVS/vIkQK 3P8DG/7YJMpMidiHW/pCGNbE4H0qgw7BUnq6HC7QbivCr2emqo8uLKWFINU5Mi9zG9TY m2WxfXKEon7lYAYQDW4/PHR+PK45zi3TtmqhyIG6Y9yNxNCYN5XscjaD2KT7ztExRFHd kWPwguRB23Fc5qesMtcDIaeVPn0ONntPbNqcpWS8Wq+WeVVLM5HtqdHosZNR547VDeyO n0mw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=E2jDpiGYv+DuowAUZ+GT5nVApT1vUwjHUZEcsVuQVwc=; b=oAXs4tqt0YQ6MA5wx1CvAbjeP/kAO/qV6OpD3UEYjXpxzLwFRTBeJwXeJGZpgHb8Mp V1tExLqYB0mJ3enDLXc2VCDdScu3wysSbMfI7xp1Qkk3IvPfc+Yqxcx/+YtIM6jl4IIU hwZ6QRDsIG6TrJhSPYIILS4eoSaRlacZTcJLxL8LEHaUQiN5O535UiDqDahEWeCJ+dpL Czc3DX9f5Ktn2jpG8Vuvk5exLHvfs6sRt3NH5mlD7DADh9L5fx8CqulMr5FsyFe+RyO4 F/LrNkGlLi5Sbn4v6rlQx4uM4Co5JprDrvOhGD4BTUIGgGM3aqZljllwpBeMFSlE4/bk RL8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5Zr3PgGBKCyN3bx9IFpo2isn5DxpM/US++sfZT6rmgp7wasR1y Aw0ziKgUB5bkYgvF/KsauifvLghq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMb42uM1d5z1ZU0XpxfnU2OzFNJOfNkm0DAYdwI45qCzCDj0GQYPhgeRzu/e5agHDd73OJ5LUA== X-Received: by 10.80.245.7 with SMTP id t7mr2646375edm.71.1510836463394; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.130] (host-78-151-241-250.as13285.net. [78.151.241.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s6sm1141862edc.2.2017.11.16.04.47.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:47:42 -0800 (PST) To: Dave Taht Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <7735C7B6-8608-45BB-9FC2-71BF4E293E52@gmail.com> From: Alan Jenkins Message-ID: <2d7bb753-4230-d601-1f18-e8e97a388278@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:47:41 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7735C7B6-8608-45BB-9FC2-71BF4E293E52@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D227A93A8947B79CDF5C3A63" Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [Cake] ack filter rrul result at 1000/100 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:47:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D227A93A8947B79CDF5C3A63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 16/11/17 09:24, Pete Heist wrote: > >> From: Dave Taht > >> To: Cake List > > >> Subject: Re: [Cake] ack filter rrul result at 1000/100 >> Message-ID: >> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> This is a much saner test result[1], showing about a 20% improvement >> under the rrul_be test. I scaled back the topology to two instances of >> cake on the middlebox, shaping to 100mbits on one side and 10mbits on >> the other, and flipped filtering on or off. The win will improve more >> with upload/download ratios of ever worse than 10/1, and the rrul is >> not exactly a test of real traffic. >> >> What other ratios are out there, particularly in the dsl world? > > That’s quite nice. Attached is the ADSL connection info for what I had > before I found FreeNet. I don’t miss this connection at all, _except_ > that it might have been nice for testing this. 2048 / 135 kbit, that’s > around 15 : 1. I have a good UK ADSL2+ connection, which I am shaping at 15:0.9 mbit, using a LEDE box.  The raw sync rates are a bit more asymmetric too. --------------D227A93A8947B79CDF5C3A63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 16/11/17 09:24, Pete Heist wrote:

From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] ack filter rrul result at 1000/100
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This is a much saner test result[1], showing about a 20% improvement
under the rrul_be test. I scaled back the topology to two instances of
cake on the middlebox, shaping to 100mbits on one side and 10mbits on
the other, and flipped filtering on or off. The win will improve more
with upload/download ratios of ever worse than 10/1, and the rrul is
not exactly a test of real traffic.

What other ratios are out there, particularly in the dsl world?

That’s quite nice. Attached is the ADSL connection info for what I had before I found FreeNet. I don’t miss this connection at all, _except_ that it might have been nice for testing this. 2048 / 135 kbit, that’s around 15 : 1.

I have a good UK ADSL2+ connection, which I am shaping at 15:0.9 mbit, using a LEDE box.  The raw sync rates are a bit more asymmetric too.
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