From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x229.google.com (mail-lf0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14D3E3B29F for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id b71so29361291lfg.0 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 09:13:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7ykqJChy1XuvtlzqVcJ/2i9OLsdmenUNNYfvc9LUZgU=; b=q8hE5/+URxytx+OHpBnCkPqKWUSEh3MrLxGRUG93fD9CJVIBnou8t3fPG+YdUHHJZd Op7pPaSffCnOmRf2wG/QuQBg+VV628oXax4o4uPFh+VTyLSK8ikGwIachboGFI0+52ob iPxc7IeWHTdhDuVsQzueJC9QONiInyKdu1tf8B45DIcFT7sGCXqaGMNZS4cZORDx+/p1 pxUCIgynuGSzzxKoZYOo8GMHNJvaQZ7Qi+s4oFDHr1WE8D0JXFh5bS7RoiWYbVZqFOZi Cdafg6BPpPCE2/Ej8mWdtEI1Gz5lSzKxRN6Q/zr9aFbmvQ9wMkaK5kXxg1KkIe1EvAlt NAew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7ykqJChy1XuvtlzqVcJ/2i9OLsdmenUNNYfvc9LUZgU=; b=nJc6x8jyMl5SmT4OGSGbswdh1XlfgYoMpBLttlxRXZkUPXNU+/YxPdwamWdb6K3/sx TkIFtBsNFlnd4HS+5nWRbVZI6N5H5CavaCZW+fe1UMK9d0YyxP9xxkqezknASN43UmtL nliPRLRz3231Lk1GdwGxHS4W7ZbmBH0JYXkZSIg7ijNo2OqVxhJE9EaXNtKlGizhJ3qV D5y0IrWtQxUaaRqv2Ii8lWDnHephbp25+wYGapCJmB+6VaPWhMNcZFOf5qYfrefNwSPJ Qv3x5pIl3Xnww5BJT+xQ4Rqm9MmGIvG8N+bGKpo+9PLWDcCAxHk+MTeKH0LAWAKbb3cL RB6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMpIZN4GVUv2vsTKB/cwBeO+PdEf4JDVyhTIxxwc0XnVWksYGo1Sh0/2tZZ6E5Bcw== X-Received: by 10.46.71.144 with SMTP id u138mr10402111lja.20.1474992837749; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 09:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.13] (37-33-90-35.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.33.90.35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h41sm533426lji.28.2016.09.27.09.13.56 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Sep 2016 09:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:13:55 +0300 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <30DC0151-C918-4664-A1FE-9179E08DE833@gmail.com> References: <06273A79-CAEB-4981-9BEE-22939D333D66@gmail.com> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] cake for net-next 4.8 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:13:59 -0000 > On 27 Sep, 2016, at 19:04, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > Annoying. Perhaps my link to the blog in my .sig? Perhaps they object > to my verbosity? This seems relevant in the headers: Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=3Dneutral (body hash did not = verify) header.i=3D@gmail.com; spf=3Dpass (google.com: best guess record = for domain of cake-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net designates 45.79.142.77 = as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=3Dcake-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net; = dmarc=3Dfail (p=3DNONE dis=3DNONE) header.from=3Dgmail.com I forget exactly how DKIM and DMARC work, but DKIM seems to be stymied = by the list adding its own message footer (which is nevertheless = best-practice). I don=E2=80=99t know how relevant a DMARC fail is to = their filter, or how relevant it *should* be. Could the listserver replace an original, verified DKIM certificate with = its own after adding the footer? On the upside, I was able to add a filter specifically saying =E2=80=9Cnev= er send to Spam folder=E2=80=9D, and it appears to be working so far. = But everyone probably needs to do that; it=E2=80=99s not a scalable = solution, only a workaround. - Jonathan Morton