From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EFE53CB35 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:03:11 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1566385386; bh=ElCCubemwQTzN8yF3gKHmyzETyqtC27nqn1YYx336D8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=eznUEZzj5EoO4sZEYTl5uXv8YjshcasVvYPZL63fQ8iXQbTC7PEjqiB0ctPqhbvgN I90yCuPxFUYSZUZ5OacGE9ncYmESBHgAXIiLwLfj0TSIxUG1Prm2m5LoT8u7WWeQgB 5EjVHrFzhsx1bkvDcB/UcqliYtk1p5aA19narEXo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [10.11.12.32] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Leux5-1ib5mf3Ghj-00qk01; Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:03:06 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <87wof6rf7t.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:03:05 +0200 Cc: Dave Taht , Jonathan Morton , "cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >> Cake List" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <31A707C5-D684-415E-8579-20264921AF11@gmx.de> References: <384866b4-4c91-cf2c-c267-ee4036e5fbf7@newmedia-net.de> <87wof7sriw.fsf@toke.dk> <6782ec15-30eb-63b0-f54f-376c5e6b840b@newmedia-net.de> <87tvabsp99.fsf@toke.dk> <74bccc2b-b805-255f-b6a7-83ade9af6765@newmedia-net.de> <87r25fsn70.fsf@toke.dk> <54438C64-C613-438E-9CB9-6C6D0C5EAFA0@gmail.com> <87sgpvflo4.fsf@taht.net> <87wof6rf7t.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1DvSOi1SbzmeDEMSiSn3w/smGepswgkEAb0UG8aYVWWqoSo5lgF MoJlwHLBRS+fB6YchgGew6ozWVCpLbW2z8sr4lar7e35/07smwCJTPUBOVZN6BJfM/5PdqD HOUp4kcVsxh6P8qfNtVLgRRkkcfTbWVM7+QhbPEs1oQk3AEplRDQWCj9u9if0V3BioyIzw/ oMm2pbSCEdrPFtlWGdZqg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:9ho3+7W3s5g=:5aeJkpC4BH1NPa/5gWRpMf QJ+ypV+GYAPBuykz2Q5or0F50I86kgT5UD6paKRlbsUv9/QXXcjlTO9WjcNZwPcz/OTwWAs4M KmWd+e4/xQkPdHDWTX9xDrgBescpTiyJplpCxn89rJfDccvHNFt1ZrDlfae3rbeDuauC4SvAl n79EQAGQ194ldBjztzG3ScSVTC4I/Qf6RVr2vxPjZgPrFeVBlzQ2FUvkJF2pn2eiHvU/rSoan kH8sdYqsYLxwyMGYsAZWOh26/9pYQzkNLilLZ5YersjLJjyA+ghfg/hol40xrrxNDQxYBXb4B v2tD9+fal75L6k7gh2IqjHvax+8wta2TBG4iRS1ACmaCybDkDqNE2gHMEdUw9eV7vh65gO4tT mx1gcUSeZk9k0B5bdpeX9GJFdZ3eRi72uWpJb9WY2A5UxYl4uBo2vElG2ACM+lYLCw4YlVDCd 9QXKL5nYMmDvGNuHN07h4gGbwGHPe7caD9Yt8XDpfZ5B/CY+XSKfTptszbUkSEY0pnXrTZVM1 6kD+AjSuSyamXoyhKfupt/qPRE38lRcyp7eYcnfBBiDBxI2Xhpj91AhJMl5RruqOTSwvPGTNz n7OvPzrWr2sKdhEhBGjTmr/QrqjEUu3y/7jnik30nYHH2F3cldsbNM0MkWOBtiCagPG7mGkkq 2M+hreJnYmbbN4DuUxg5hIUaxljSDq9wDllv/FfPkjGzQoIWBta8O1tqWAOs++bkDMw2ePAZ3 HjhBH6OHvcNesm+HDPrz4aY4imcRjo8/OR1pHlSOSddgzgNDcMYDL8Hh85FBhso+LXwL0Nde2 tavS4pSruBIfS2t3snIYoJ0n5VX6OUTvUhMh0XVJufhoW8JW097hs76TlZ+tIkgaRnxV7D90Y BjYGKyMtkXzSTUQkqF62Tm5HsG/pkNM6ftCQgorDXk5uRxr/0R+jD72YfPO2AaBfZdqgsPPkg 5t/aJQUiZRf+hDyLLc6bJ/qqbsHu5dbP8turcq48XtJx3FU3kiCDsohr81jmWn0utI9CF/ydB +Hz05lz4cpu414Wmb3DjI9//wdd4fQWFCAA8G1rGtW5JWizIoEQK5is9rqfCoUQouCns5jfll JJ96q7Ol4Gf5CbCNepuTZMUERsVW8R9sBI9eCt72XWujRWpBZohqLA8ll9rqMYRSFKfJwZEI/ 3kCCw= Subject: Re: [Cake] cake in dd-wrt X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 11:03:12 -0000 > On Aug 21, 2019, at 12:21, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Dave Taht writes: >=20 >> Jonathan Morton writes: >>=20 >>>> On 20 Aug, 2019, at 9:39 pm, Sebastian Gottschall = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =E2=80=A6a heavy bittorrent downloader will still steal the = bandwidth of my scp session. >>>=20 >>> If you can identify the Bittorrent packets, you can mark them CS1, = and >>> switch on Cake's "diffserv3" mode (as it is by default). Then the >>> Bittorrent packets will still be able to use full bandwidth if it's >>> available, but will be limited to 1/16th of the total if there is >>> contention. >>=20 >> I regard the whole CS1 thing as having never been particularly >> successful for a variety of reasons - in particular because >> we seemed to be the only ones attempting to use it with rigor. >>=20 >> I would like to patch in and submit "LE" support to mainline cake. >>=20 >> The RFC retires CS1 - which I wouldn't retire - but see: Does it really do that? I see a section requesting domains using CS1 to = remark to LE on egress, which, given that hardware often treats CS1 to = higher priority than CS0 seems like the right thing to do... I also see = changes to all RFCs that recommended CS1 as LE-DSCP, but it specifically = caters to dscp domains that actively use CS1. The bigger issue I see in = the request to never bleach/nor re-mark 000001, but if this can be = achieved for any codepoint the for LE, assuming every domain owner might = actually be interested to use this information for dropping/queueing = decisions, no? Best Regards Sebastian >>=20 >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8622.html >=20 > Yeah, getting support for that upstream might be a good idea :) >=20 >> Also it seems like a good idea to also submit the NS bit >> exclusion from the ack filter to mainline as well. >=20 > What's that? >=20 > -Toke > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake