From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x235.google.com (mail-lf0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F3BF21F7D5 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by lfgh9 with SMTP id h9so80049710lfg.1 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:02:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=C1AQ03U2vnpbPEES1LDV7WrCNtzLsOT/SUYnKotCD7w=; b=PJgc3ZappHyMRuK4as21bK8ntcmJwAMpEHltY2koBkzhS5GATTG6uWBwfhrLCYt18b 9dqW6/5YgsrWISFX5Qx23oEPpM8/+fhEei791QNdBlICS0hb0lDeiwXTiAjfuuglNg2C Klaoft58VZfjyw9SHizG/dKNUH5gO1A+EXwqB2yIjoW7GLTiL2Fb8oqwcJhFE+PGZRZ8 pKV0pNeTSe1SAxqOYqGn665/ES8aqoDZcq4pCnIYigFFZZ4hzyxr9hcjji3fnfDaedre UNCeKeQBvY2hFMifg6jQ59r53GQXpJylDP9A7Jpkm1sNVXZo5gjRCqTJdfEM/Uzabonr SWmQ== X-Received: by 10.25.33.143 with SMTP id h137mr5420979lfh.16.1446872538678; Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (83-245-237-101-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.237.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j136sm559575lfe.38.2015.11.06.21.02.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Nov 2015 21:02:17 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <87611fkyd7.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 07:02:13 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <340E3F23-2F9C-449F-ACA7-86031FBE3B31@gmail.com> References: <87pozspckj.fsf@toke.dk> <6A2609D9-7747-487B-9484-ECC69C50DE96@gmx.de> <874mh3pai9.fsf@toke.dk> <50C2A7B7-1B81-41E1-B534-CA449296FE77@gmail.com> <87ziysldij.fsf@toke.dk> <87vb9fl7ec.fsf@toke.dk> <87611fkyd7.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cake] Long-RTT broken again X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 05:02:44 -0000 > On 6 Nov, 2015, at 16:15, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Added a run with Reno to the same directory. Smoother, but worse = overall > throughput. Yes, looks like it=E2=80=99s ramping up the slow way, and hasn=E2=80=99t = reached the BDP by the time the test run ended. However, it also looks like it=E2=80=99s properly ack-clocked, unlike = CUBIC, so while it=E2=80=99s still bursty, it isn=E2=80=99t overflowing = the buffer except during slow-start. The fact that slow-start terminates (due to loss) after only a few RTTs = is suspicious. What parameters are you giving to netem? I note that = the default packet limit in netem is 1000, which is 1.5MB... - Jonathan Morton