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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] A few puzzling Cake results
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:58:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3457DD8E-0292-4802-BD1E-B37771DCADA2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0BB8B1FD-6A00-49D6-806E-794BD53A449F@gmx.de>

> On 18 Apr, 2018, at 6:17 pm, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> Just a thought, in egress mode in the typical deployment we expect, the bandwidth leading into cake will be >> than the bandwidth out of cake, so I would argue that the package droppage might be acceptable on egress as there is bandwidth to "waste" while on ingress the issue very much is that all packets cake sees already used up parts of the limited transfer time on the bottleneck link and hence are more "precious", no? Users wanting this new behavior could still use the ingress keyword even on egress interfaces?

Broadly speaking, that should indeed counter most of the negative effects you'd expect from disabling this tweak in egress mode.  But it doesn't really answer the question of whether there's a compelling *positive* reason to do so.  I want to see a use case that holds up.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-18 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17  9:42 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 10:04 ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-17 10:38   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 12:05     ` Y
     [not found]     ` <mailman.225.1523966725.3573.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-04-17 12:22       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 13:16         ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-17 13:50           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 13:47         ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-17 13:52         ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-17 14:25           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 14:54             ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-17 15:10               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-17 14:03 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-17 14:17   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 11:25     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 12:21       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-04-18 12:57         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 13:13       ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-18 13:21         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 14:12       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-18 14:30         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 15:03           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-18 15:17             ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-18 15:58               ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2018-04-18 16:11                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 16:25                   ` Dave Taht
2018-04-18 16:34                     ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-04-18 17:10                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-19  7:49                     ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-19  8:11                       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-19  9:00                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-19  9:21                           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-19  9:26                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-19  9:55                               ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-19 10:33                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-19 11:55                                   ` Luca Muscariello
2018-04-18 16:54                   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-18 17:02                     ` Dave Taht
2018-04-18 18:06                       ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-18 18:11                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-18 18:16                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.238.1524075384.3573.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-04-19  8:31                             ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-04-18 18:11                     ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-18 19:53                     ` David Lang
2018-04-18 21:53                       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-19  9:22                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-19  9:32                           ` Jonathan Morton

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