From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Long-RTT broken again
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 12:08:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <355718FB-BE85-4C53-BE85-48367A62B923@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56388CA4.7000308@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
Hi Kevin,
On Nov 3, 2015, at 11:29 , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 03/11/15 08:34, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 09:25 , Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On 3 Nov, 2015, at 10:20, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also what about the BUG_ON I managed to trigger during my testing?
>>> That turned out to be a flawed condition, which I’ve already fixed.
>>
> If my git-blame-fu is working right this morning, then Dave is the one
> who with the aid of commit c4f75d38 turned "BUG_ON(CAKE_MAX_BINS <
> q->bin_cnt);" into "BUG_ON(q->bin_cnt >= CAKE_MAX_BINS);" and introduced
> a classic 'off-by-one/fencepost' error on 2015-10-05. A reconfigure
> using 'diffserv8' should have blown up quite nicely after that date and
> suggests little testing has been done with diffserv8 since that time.
>
> Well done Seb for clearly treading rarely visited areas of the code!
Fair enough so the initial BUG_ON seems to have been safe.
>
> BUG_ON I put in the category of "Never test for a condition you don't
> know how to handle" ;-) Now that the off-by-one has been stomped on I'm
> going to stick my neck out and say that bin_cnt > 8 implies something
> has stomped on our config structure and we really shouldn't be trusting
> anything in it. Goodness knows what our skb queues are like...and err,
> help! Also note that the correctly written BUG_ON didn't explode for
> many months.
Well, not my call, but I have seen discussions on LKML about this topic with the general gist that a BUG_ON needs to be justified, and only be there is the situation is not salvageable. After all we take down a whole machine that might be doing something really really important...
>
> I'm happy with it being there.
As long as it can never trigger I guess I do not care too much about this either. But the fact that we managed to get it wrong does not fill me with confidence (I seem to suffer from a lack of confidence lately...)
Best Regards
Sebastian
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-02 16:53 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-02 18:29 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 1:39 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-03 8:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 8:25 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-03 8:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 10:29 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-11-03 11:08 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2015-11-03 11:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 11:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 12:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 11:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 16:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-03 17:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 17:11 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 17:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 17:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-03 17:33 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 17:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 17:49 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 17:52 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 17:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 17:57 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 17:59 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-03 18:06 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-03 19:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-03 19:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-05 14:36 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-05 19:30 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-06 11:00 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-06 14:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-06 15:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 5:02 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-07 5:16 ` Dave Taht
2015-11-07 6:49 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-07 8:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 10:51 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-07 13:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-11-07 13:42 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 16:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 13:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 15:08 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-07 16:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-11-07 18:25 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-11-07 19:32 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-11-08 16:29 ` Dave Taht
2015-11-11 10:23 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
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