From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACED33B29E for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 16:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id n10-v6so12628215wmc.1 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=d+ncWRvwo8XSeYAluRLqU8YElMA+VU7VccklsSzFVEU=; b=qWGuqFoMTZn35C6TYnOhKHrgjfbCgmoDxYfJj2qtoU/9w0/FMe5cq9OaQTMxV5R3yX 7xWffvR7hz/fNQp88ebewWguQ7TWT2Np+TICXqXfMQZZIlGxEofTMQS5YaOwLT940L7e 1zN6pZQolca1HO5w6rL0/mMso1B7WCcPp9IgnA5vbznbCD/uNVG3Rw3WF2tr7uvoiy6+ sHInbVXSkn8MI22T6evWZT2rjWwqVXG6S9L9SzrUz8Qv7ShMLOt3crqxPZOW4CLa6lOD 8T5JeUB7jMxsePzHqeYy1OL9/XDEOjVPP49g5cigoh4rCJNAGwIzzRjz/4SCSQLScD5a 3A2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=d+ncWRvwo8XSeYAluRLqU8YElMA+VU7VccklsSzFVEU=; b=d6j9aB8gtsEQadU9rkWpLTkKhHpEuJ2RNf80FScFm4V4Qlj+YgV6Nc918xdG+Wca6M Z1YLYovYLZ0Q6OCM+E9udCqazXdVxBt7rCMhvnPbywAfKWYjXXWJHOC4kp5l8N5hxfjL zHNcjW53bAgc6tnCu4QnjrB1aYWIyYdVgPaLUNnDKr1JFuz1CBs+HBI4mhRGHUUqFu5S HwxkgFiM2N6G3YgWvAaLJK8FE6vCpODFNd84xrzkzZBXg2j27RkRkgp3dOQguE6xRX0X 2LdMmiEjoRihkUJdMFYK/kooPciaVAfC9DqOFUdcNBG4rMAcHRwDdOzkMoyZn4o7tR9d 2gXA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdIxlrdMIH1HkArBNJ3bCBd12srUW58bd0cVl0XYWdPeWkgn0os jgEF7/B2eQJtEacicSICqYM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpWVN2BtaxJdVsgfIfsaek0nF+aeoRfUMLvJ8P/V20qiHIfmqwtMD29oWsI7C/Qoc5AMU1XFw== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:21c6:: with SMTP id h67-v6mr2740084lji.132.1527107586667; Wed, 23 May 2018 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.216] (83-245-233-104-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d5-v6sm4653275lfg.65.2018.05.23.13.33.05 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 May 2018 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <20180523.160403.20551254565100734.davem@davemloft.net> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 23:33:04 +0300 Cc: toke@toke.dk, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <370B23D9-E929-4A73-BB7C-C1BE4A01C7E6@gmail.com> References: <152699745846.21931.4558451708304709296.stgit@alrua-kau> <20180523.144442.864194409238516747.davem@davemloft.net> <91739F64-20B7-4C56-A7A3-AB8C71B9437C@gmail.com> <20180523.160403.20551254565100734.davem@davemloft.net> To: David Miller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Subject: Re: [Cake] [PATCH net-next v15 4/7] sch_cake: Add NAT awareness to packet classifier X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:33:07 -0000 > On 23 May, 2018, at 11:04 pm, David Miller = wrote: >=20 > Who said anything about using an ingress qdisc to record/remember > this information? Now I'm *really* confused. Are you saying that the user has to set up their own conntrack mechanism = using extra userspace commands? Because complicating the setup process = that way runs directly counter to Cake's design philosophy. - Jonathan Morton