From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4DBC3B29F for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.17.3.48] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Las1k-1bAD2r3Zc0-00kMNB; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:07:09 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: moeller0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 14:07:09 +0200 Cc: ching lu , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <375CB1B8-0D16-4EEA-B4AC-73BDCFB76460@gmx.de> References: <4D2419FB-6649-4250-9D42-E6EDECFFCCDE@gmail.com> <95CB6153-524D-499A-8E85-231C5098A4DB@gmx.de> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eATpkUT2CxVfPjwAHzl7BZujYZiIo1UOmPLu24b4gk8Fw4uJsBE fnn3s4X39KkPedWp9zWYJD6JzI6g+mS96Kz1ZZT/8zMWkxbe/smoZfuE9uujfBQBDiKusdA hOJTFkBke6ekr27/3KY3NcbBsDdkJKsbrelNcKyZQiYkdvQARZdmBuoxy4HSAzEaVNnRLi1 i4IvxIZjyOTFHhf6YxkeA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:QZZxItZ3cDE=:g/Ci3GrM7dwge+5QJ49/7Y rglMGFC/Q+XK5nLG9m+/A5WIafc66wKxsYHJuxa0khrWvLo67IqZ9I5xsurQnLNe6tL0KUuNU 7X50byh9XKk3+xxWI6DgKuG+awtM5IkR5fgXwiOK+xoGfkNTsVO2UWokC2BM03K01QRepmfOT WkpXizO56sYnlrMUbeNjJZ40Pnnq5qE9HPoet9uEG1ZPEw2ovh7Zk1UTyEiEsIKjSJiQ3X1OY q39WHl03T6RbSm/pJ+ntI9ZhYKIErDo+Ujj74jTPVvqgg2Wy98/RU8w25vgJlJpDckpRoTT8Z D9nXdgVryklAhvKJDy3ojimfFYqakJJt6fl7g4vuy9DheGKaOjOxieoVxVPKG1N1mn+TmmIIP kIg9WjNwjOy7am54cr3xh4IfQP8SzscXR0O46uXYDFy2XVeiw/yP76ivrT24p770+VKkCsXqm s3TW2WJRYZXKveSgTylqk5+Kgf82d6qCu0P7NwB9XcARW+6nzXzAKgAlyfmju7xrxs42sst7R PwrbAPmEXDb5JJEpmRqsnxh1nQsrAF13ffGa79+O4xjX4JCQdUdNPl9QiakgkI+pP3aCJIEaM SAo8UkeBqCvVGW97cwzoZlLURJhrU/Lp7Ytht8m4bJ7yugKXDRBZHJb1vuSaB30OkzoHhJEHx ydWxv0J6qRLiAwqfOZzGjtlyw67HoVkPGhAVlRMza4Jz7IfyqSKKnFPk8QlyBE1bjvE05UMaE UPtPck5evM/DgUBImtQZqoLc8s1KfuQemmFAH5H92yuv5WO+KPocIkGdzJeOAR2ljOhDsVM8C 5YAS55E Subject: Re: [Cake] diffserv based on firewall mark X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:07:12 -0000 > On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:21 , Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > I still defend the idea of the diffserv "squash" option cake once had. > It was essentially RFC compliant, simple to use, and because iptables > was too late on inbound, needed, no matter the layer violation. As stated I am not sure whether that is a relevant layering violation to = begin with=E2=80=A6 I believe that Jonathan found a way to have a dscp = qdisc stacked on top of cake that does the squashing afterwards. I am = uncertain whether that only worked in theory (so whether research = stopped after finding the dscp qdisc) or whether that was actually = tested to DTRT in allowing cake to use the internally set DSC values but = re-map them to 0 before putting them on the wire? Best Regards Sebastian=