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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake vs fq_codel and c/burst on an ER-X bridge
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 10:43:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E4C6925-5E21-4BCB-BAAE-015EB8AEC3E1@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7jSx6XEt64S8feih0-NLTKW6MAy4HdFzW2ngJWXceNMg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dave,


> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:30, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:20 AM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:20, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What I "fixed" was on the apu2 with the burst/cburst change, I went
>>> from completely bottlenecked on one softirq to having 3 eat cpu, and
>>> from 400mbps to 900mbps. Now, that's a quad core and the e1000 (?)
>>> driver. The edgerouter X is a dual core, and you did see a small
>>> improvement in throughput, but I'd hoped for more.
>> 
>> Well, assuming my intuitions about how burst/cburst ameliorate the issue, we might simply have to say accept an additional 5ms delay/jitter to make it perform better. It is basically the same batching approach that always helps throughput of a cyclic process can not be repeated often enough, simply do more per iteration...
>> 
>> Best Regards
>>        Sebastian
>> 
> 
> I buy what you are saying. I just wished it was a magic bullet for
> other than the apu2!

I guess I will have a look at exposing burst in the gui/config file to allow easier testing. (I aim for defaulting to the automatic mode we currently use, but will also look at potentially changing the calculations).
I wonder to what degree htb's quantum is at play again after that. If I understand correctly quantum defines the granularity of dequeuing the different priority tiers, so the higher quantum the higher the choppyness/lumpiness of packets of different tiers, no? If this is true, shouldn't quantum also be defined in milliseconds instead of size, so that we have a better handle on the potential latency cost of doing so?

Best Regards
	Sebastian




> -- 
> 
> Dave Täht
> CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> http://www.teklibre.com
> Tel: 1-669-226-2619


  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-11  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-04 10:19 [Cake] Cake on elements of a bridge Georgios Amanakis
2018-09-04 10:31 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-04 12:01   ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-09-06 17:37     ` Pete Heist
2018-09-06 18:04       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-06 18:51         ` Pete Heist
2018-09-10 19:29           ` Pete Heist
2018-09-10 19:55             ` Dave Taht
2018-09-10 22:40               ` [Cake] Cake vs fq_codel and c/burst on an ER-X bridge Pete Heist
2018-09-11  7:54                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-11  8:20                   ` Dave Taht
2018-09-11  8:20                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-11  8:30                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-11  8:43                         ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2018-09-11 18:27                     ` Pete Heist
2018-09-11 18:29                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-11 18:42                         ` Dave Taht
2018-09-19 13:27                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-19 17:02                       ` Dave Taht
2018-09-20 10:34                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-20 17:05                           ` Dave Taht
2018-09-20 18:19                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-20 18:31                               ` Dave Taht
2018-09-11 18:09                   ` Pete Heist
2018-09-11 18:28                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-09-11 18:45                       ` Pete Heist
2018-09-11 18:47                         ` Dave Taht

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